Brave New World
POSTED BY: dreamtrove
UPDATED: Sunday, August 20, 2006 02:27
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anti-Bush
Good: he is affecting change globally, for better or worse; and he is a good motivational speaker
Bad- without getting into my normal diatribe, i just want to respond to someone elses comment:
we wouldnt need the minutemen, if the Federal government would fullfill its responsibility and secure our borders itself; what are Americans supposed to do in this case? let the whole of south America come across? maybe it hasnt quite registered with most Americans what slave labor does to an economy like ours...
im not sure why this doesnt set off alarms with those who think muslim extremist terrorism is the greatest threat facing America and the world...yet Bush calls the minutemen vigilantes; nevermind that theyre doing what the Fed. refuses to do
maybe we should secure our borders before we start wiretapping everybodys phone calls? nah thats rediculous; its not like it worked in Berlin
but im afraid its all an afterthought by now..the Bush agenda is to keep the borders as free-flowing as possible..hence NAFTA superhighway that begins construction next year, connecting Canada to Mexico.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15497
its strange, the Dubai ports deal was all over the news, and we seemed to atleast have prolonged it(everyones forgot about it by now), but where was the media when Bush met with Fox and Canadas prime minister to forge this pan-American Union? isnt that an issue of national security?
ahh sovereignty..well, better luck on the next planet
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Originally posted by USBrowncoat:
Simple. State if you are pro or anti bush.
Give a pro
Give a con
Would be better if we didn't have this: Good________ah still thinking______ah?
We get it when you state pro or anti.
Play fair people.
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Anti-Bush
I was just trying to keep it light and humorous. But it never fails. When I'm trying to be funny, people always think I'm being sarcastic and when I'm being sarcastic, people generally think I'm being funny.
Perhaps you noticed that I not only stated one positive thing, I listed three things. And in the spirit of sticking with the rules, here's number four:
His interest in furthering space exploration. I think it's an excellent idea.
Also, you didn't state a pro or con with your complaint.....I mean post.
Edited to list the con I forgot to add:
On the home front, He took the country’s economy from A-OK to IOU, turning a projected, 10-year $5 billion surplus into a projected $5 billion deficit and, in the short term, replacing Bill Clinton’s balanced budget with a 2004 budget deficit of $374 billion, the largest in history. According to projections issued by the White House Budget Office in January 2004, Bush will set an all-time new deficit record of $520 billion in 2005. At the same time, Bush rewarded his favorite constituency, those Americans making over $320,000 a year, with two back-to-back tax cuts that they didn’t need and we couldn’t afford.
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Not rich enough for a tax break
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Quote:If you’re referring to the other thread, I really don’t agree with your position there, but I’m sorry if I was being rough. If you think I’m hard to get along with here, you should work for me.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Finn,
Glad to see you joined us. I think you were sort of being rough on my position there.
Quote:Well if it’s any consolation, the spending has been the major thorn in my side for some time now. And while, I’m happy to see that efforts are now being made to curtail spending, those efforts are impacting on my funding.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I agree on both points. I wasn't always a Hezbollah-loving Bush-hater. Before I sacraficed goats to the prophet I used to support him. He lost me after a collection of these, I think torture was the final straw, but the spending had been getting to me for a while, and the patriot act, though it was more of a bipartisan effort, Viet Dinh is a republican partisan.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Originally posted by citizen:Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I think that the war on terror has won some victories off the battlefield with terrorists in Libya and Ireland sheathing the sword. I think there was a rumor that this was coming along in Spain as well. So, Bravo, well done.
The peace process in Ireland had nothing to do with the Bush administration.
Probably why it's actually working (at least last time I checked).
Oops, guess I have to say something nice now...Bush has given my favorite local DJ's an insane amount of material to work with. Almost worth having four more years.
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If you’re referring to the other thread, I really don’t agree with your position there, but I’m sorry if I was being rough. If you think I’m hard to get along with here, you should work for me.
Politics does breed a special sort of animosity. I think on the left-right scale if left is (1) Marx, Lenin and Teddy Kennedy and right (10) is Adam Smith, William F. Buckley and Pat Buchananm then you're probably somewhere around (8) and I'm somewhere around (7) since there are a decent number of republicans to the left of me. And if we get into it, then it seems like there's no hope of ever having (1) and (10) working together in the same govt., (like the Levin-Inhoffe bill?)
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Well if it’s any consolation, the spending has been the major thorn in my side for some time now. And while, I’m happy to see that efforts are now being made to curtail spending, those efforts are impacting on my funding.
Sadly, there's never a logic to where the cuts are made. Except on the old pork basis, ie. you didn't have a team of lobbyist protecting the project. I suppose it would make more sense if the cutting priority we put in when the spending program was created, like you could create a Priority 9 spending bill which would be a lot easier to pass than a priority 1 spending bill, and then they could get curtailed in that order. Something like that.
Oh, I almost forgot. Bush had a great state of the union including a promise to move ahead on alternative fuels, which is a big admission for someone who's support is so solidly based in oil.
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Originally posted by misbehaven:Quote:
Originally posted by USBrowncoat:
Simple. State if you are pro or anti bush.
Give a pro
Give a con
Would be better if we didn't have this: Good________ah still thinking______ah?
We get it when you state pro or anti.
Play fair people.
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Anti-Bush
I was just trying to keep it light and humorous. But it never fails. When I'm trying to be funny, people always think I'm being sarcastic and when I'm being sarcastic, people generally think I'm being funny.
Perhaps you noticed that I not only stated one positive thing, I listed three things. And in the spirit of sticking with the rules, here's number four:
His interest in furthering space exploration. I think it's an excellent idea.
Also, you didn't state a pro or con with your complaint.....I mean post.
Edited to list the con I forgot to add:
On the home front, He took the country’s economy from A-OK to IOU, turning a projected, 10-year $5 billion surplus into a projected $5 billion deficit and, in the short term, replacing Bill Clinton’s balanced budget with a 2004 budget deficit of $374 billion, the largest in history. According to projections issued by the White House Budget Office in January 2004, Bush will set an all-time new deficit record of $520 billion in 2005. At the same time, Bush rewarded his favorite constituency, those Americans making over $320,000 a year, with two back-to-back tax cuts that they didn’t need and we couldn’t afford.
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Not rich enough for a tax break
Well sarcasm and humor can easily be mistaken. My apologize.
Good - His hair
Bad - His daughters!
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Oh, I almost forgot. Bush had a great state of the union including a promise to move ahead on alternative fuels, which is a big admission for someone who's support is so solidly based in oil.
Promises and actions are two different things.
Bush and co. started moving the military away from the Cold War and more towards the organization that will be needed to fight the kind of wars we are actually likely to get into.
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Originally posted by fredgiblet:Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Oh, I almost forgot. Bush had a great state of the union including a promise to move ahead on alternative fuels, which is a big admission for someone who's support is so solidly based in oil.
Promises and actions are two different things.
Bush and co. started moving the military away from the Cold War and more towards the organization that will be needed to fight the kind of wars we are actually likely to get into.
Must give a good and bad..Moderator..thank you
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Originally posted by USBrowncoat:Quote:
Originally posted by fredgiblet:Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Oh, I almost forgot. Bush had a great state of the union including a promise to move ahead on alternative fuels, which is a big admission for someone who's support is so solidly based in oil.
Promises and actions are two different things.
Bush and co. started moving the military away from the Cold War and more towards the organization that will be needed to fight the kind of wars we are actually likely to get into.
Must give a good and bad..Moderator..thank you
My first comment was (IMHO) neutral, I was pointing out that she/he/it was saying that a politician making a promise (*snicker*) was a good thing when in reality what a politician says is unimportant, the only thing that is important is what the politician does.
My second comment was intended to be positive, while I will miss the Cold War style stuff, the military needed an overhaul and Bush and co. started one.
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Originally posted by USBrowncoat:
Well sarcasm and humor can easily be mistaken. My apologize.
Good - His hair
Bad - His daughters!
Still keepin' it light:
Good - His daughters
Bad - His hair
Morbid and creepifying I got no problem with, so long as you do it quiet like.
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