Joss Whedon: Moderate Humanist or Lefty Loon?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 18:47
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Stupid bloody hippy.
THERE YOU GO AGAIN!!!!! Geez! I'm going to launch a formal protest against all these anti-hippie posts!
As for the topic in general, it is interesting that The Operative wasn't killed by Mal considering he shot several other people responsible for causing people harm - that guy on Haven for example. The Operative is no less guilty, since he gave the order. Of course, Mal does tell him that he will kill him if he ever sees him again. It seems that since The Operative ordered the troops to stand down, they both accepted that there was something of a truce between them. Until Mal left anyway. And it was a pretty shaky truce at that, since Mal seemed to really, really want to reach for his weapon during that last conversation.
Speaking as someone from a country with a history of terrorism, the unfortunate truth is that sometimes, if you want to ensure a lasting peace, you have to let some people away with murder. Because if you want a lasting peace at some point you are going to have to negotiate with the people who murdered your family and friends. That's why wars last so long.
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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Because if you want a lasting peace at some point
Speaking as someone from a country with a history of terrorism, the unfortunate truth is that sometimes, if you want to ensure a lasting peace, you have to let some people away with murder.
Swallow pride and hatred to ensure no further loss of life?
I guess that's what Jesus would do...
The path to peace Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:
Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Because if you want a lasting peace at some point
Speaking as someone from a country with a history of terrorism, the unfortunate truth is that sometimes, if you want to ensure a lasting peace, you have to let some people away with murder.
Swallow pride and hatred to ensure no further loss of life?
I guess that's what Jesus would do...
The path to peace Chrisisall
...but since the rest of us aren't manifestations of the Deity (even if there are people around who think they're God) it's a bit of a tall order. I know there was a lot of bitterness in this part of the world when people guilty of planting bombs and shooting civilians were released from jail as part of the peace process in Northern Ireland.
The problem is, the only other way to ensure a lasting peace is to wipe your enemy off the face of the earth and, aside from the moral issues, killing people has a nasty habit of creating more enemies.
Another reason why wars last so long.
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Quote:Joss has said in at least one interview that he himself is a liberal and a Democrat. In the same interview, Joss also said that Mal is his opposite: a Libertarian. It is easy to confuse an author's political views with that of his protagonist. In Joss' case, they are very different.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I think we all had it out on this issue before and I and others on the right said joss was right-libertarian, and lefties said left lib and we eventually settled on Center-Libertarian, which is probably accurate.
I am surprised Mal didn't kill the Operative. What, after kicking Crow into the engine? Didn't seem consistent to me. But then, maybe that was Mal's revenge now that he "believes"--if you think about it, it is less merciful to leave the Operative depressed and soulless than to kill him standing on his feet. Either way, I didn't see letting the Operative go as an act of kindness.
Personally, I believe it isn't for us to judge and sentence who is evil and who should die. However, I have heard of such evil that if that evil were standing in front of me, even if unarmed and defenseless, I would take it upon myself to judge and sentence. I believe it would be wrong for me to do it, but I'd do it anyway.
Here is an example of the evil I mean. Don't ask me how, but I once came across a disgusting website giving detailed instructions on how to kidnap children, torture them, and eat them alive (including recipes). Now see, if I came across someone doing that sort of thing, I'd kill 'em. Even if they were unarmed in their sleep. I think it'd be wrong, but I'd do it. I don't care if there is some good in them or if they help old ladies cross the street or if they can change. That's just me.
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Were someone that twisted, I feel killin' them would actually be a kindness, to that individual, and the world.
But don't quote me on that; I'll deny it.
I said modified Buddhist Chrisisall
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