Male and Female Imponderables--Cry Baby Cry
POSTED BY: Tristan
UPDATED: Monday, August 14, 2006 15:47
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Hi Rose
Did you see River6213 in "good thread".
She wants trouble. And I am determined to stop her.
Sorry to vent, but she is trys my patience.
So if my posts aren't the best, know I'm a little busy.
Traveler
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PR - Hey Darlin'! It is so hard to date sometimes isn't it...??? I mean one minute you're thinking how hard it is to do the askin' out, then you know it's not right and your heart says 'be up front and honest' but you don't want to do any hurtin' and then you think about how hard it is to do the 'unaskin' as it were...
Be honest, and I know you'll be kind. It is always hard to see their expression when you say it, but that passes and the sooner it is done the sooner they let go of any hurt/frustration and realise that you were wonderful to be so honest with them... if they don't then you DEFINITELY didn't want to go there.
I kind of got 'tricked' into a date once. A friend from a large group I hung out with rang and arranged dinner, at the time the way he said it I assumed he meant the whole gang, I soon found out that it was just him and me and he was telling all the other guys we were going on a date!
I panicked and thought about cancelling but it was difficult as he hadn't really told me it was supposed to be a date! On the day we were going out I insisted on meeting him so that he didn't pick me up/take me home... and I added (on the phone, before the meeting time) that I hoped he knew that I wasn't looking for a relationship, but I was really looking forward to spending the evening with him as a friend. I could tell he was hurt from the silence and forced laugh. He later accused me of leading him on (???????) and asked me 'why did you feel you had to warn me off?' All in all a very uncomfortable evening. I did insist on paying for my own meal saying that I hadn't agreed to let him pay for me, and keeping in mind that this was after the uncomfortable converstaions we'd had.
But that was better than the time I went on a frist date and the guy (seriously) asked me to marry him!!!???
Also the time my date got so drunk that he passed out on the doormat of his house (fortunately we were on a double date with mutual friends and my female friend drove me and herself home whilst our 'boys' slept it off in the hallway...)
Anyone else got some horror stories...?
It might cheer my gorgeous PR up to think that she got off lightly...
Mwaaaah - darling girl! Magdalena x x x
"I love my Captain!"
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Lol, actually i'm at the applying phase right now, but yeah, college, I'm not too worried about getting in, just where I get in (though I dont care too much).
Argh, Rose, don't spoil my mindset, i'm working on the assumption that everything is better in college once all moved out n stuff. Everything. Because.... what else can I do?
Frankly, this idea of being practiced in flirting and dating and stuff.... I suppose it's good if I plan to do that in the future, but call me a hopeless romantic, but I really hope I won't have to embrace a TV cliche and make an awkward noise that vaguely equates to going someplace with someone else. Oh, whatever, that'll happen when it (doesnt) happen(s), until then I've got a lot of admissions and AP classes to keep me busy. Stupid life.
P.S. Good gorram, Magdalena, those are some really disturbing tales of woe. Hopefully, in my role as guy, I won't do any of the above 
things.
"But, these strong women characters?"
"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon
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Magda! 
Yeeks, those are horror stories!
Did I tell y'all about the guy who contacted me on the personals site with the message "You and I should run away together and get married!" Lord and Lady, that freaked me out a little bit!
Crazy people. Arg!
lol, sorry to bust your bubble, Whitefall. A lot of things are better in college, but as with all things you can't just snap your fingers and develop skills you've never worked on before. Flirting is a skill (and can have a lot of different meanings, so don't get rankled at the idea of flirting) and I've been working on it for the past five years and still don't have it completely down. Sometimes people see interest where there is none, or see friendlt flirting as romantic flirting, and sometimes I can be all cute and flirty and none of my signals get through at all. Showing interest can be hard to get right. showing disinterest is a bigger pain, though.
P.S. Yeah, River is in one of her moods again. Don't try to stop her, she'll wear herself out in a bit.
No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path. - Gautama Siddharta
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Whitefall - thank you - you have made my pitiful experiences have meaning... if I can save just one innocent young woman the pain of an innappropriate proposal, or a drunken end to a drunken evening ... or a very uncomfortable dinner in a very upmarket restaurant... then it was all worth it...
I'm sure there was never any danger of you doing any of those things - the girls you date will be lucky to do so! Best of luck with the applications!
Mwaaah - MAgdalena x x x
EDIT: Coz - PR & I posted together again!!!!! I love that!! Yes - I love the emote too (just the kind of hug I love to get!!) Flirting is an art - and not everone is on the same wavelength so keep working at it! I swear some guys take the tiniest gesture as a come on and others... you could take off all your clothes, paint yourself blue and sing "I'm flirting with you come and get it" and they still wouldn't get the hint! (sorry - channeling Black Adder there... not a pretty mental image either...arrrgh!)
One guy I ended up dating for 7 months I'd been flirting with for weeks - when he finally asked me out I said, so you finally noticed all my flirting eh? His reply was to look blank and say "Oh, Peter said you were flirting with me... I didn't realise..."
"I love my Captain!"
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hehe whitefall, it's nice to make yourself think you'll suddenly magically find it all happen (i know, i used to, it can be a very comforting thought when you're alone 
) but unfortunately, it ain't so, you really do have to make things happen, take some action yourself to make them come to pass. practice flirting and so on isn't always the trick, it's practice reading people and working out what they think of you is the hard bit. i'm utterly hopeless at it, unless it's something blatently obvious, like sharing a smile with someone on the bus and catching sight of them glancing my way with a wee private smile to themself afterwards, or them yelling in my face that they hate the very ground i've walked on, i tend to be pretty dense in that respect, and of course, i attribute it to not having dated/had relationships/etc. when i was in school and EVERYONE felt that awkward. So yeah, cruel as it is to puncture illusions and so on, sometimes it's for the best, and better that you come at things with a realistic perspective i think. (i think i tied that back into what you were saying, and didn't just go on about myself, trying to relate and things, identify with, not ignore and talk about myself )
PR, i'm sorry to hear it didn't go so well =( but hey, there's the cute guy you just heard from the other day no? better to be upfront, even if he acts huffy and black-affronted, he'll get over that, and it could be easier to be friends once he does if you do ^^
Seryn, i hadn't heard the Pegg was doing that, shall have to keep my nose out for it xD any idea what jessica stevenson and nick frost are up to these days? i'm still undecided about St. Elsewhere, i think i like it, think i'm definately heading in that direction (and from what i've seen, got to agree their live performance's look incredible, all costume's and extra's and all sorts) but i've been known to change my mind for the daftest reason's.
and the topic's only imponderable: s'not worth worrying overly about terrorism, might as well worry about crossing the street or taking a shower. although i think i can top coming out of 'the day after tomorrow' and going 'look at the pretties' i was having similar thoughts when i watched the world trade centre's taking those planes, which was horribly cynical and callous and you know, a great many people died and a community has been shattered, but, you know, just because it's more spectacular then corssing the street, doesn't change the end results, and i don't remember breaking down in tears at the edge of any streets recently.
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Yay! I love the spontanious double postings too, Magda!
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Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
practice flirting and so on isn't always the trick, it's practice reading people and working out what they think of you is the hard bit.
I define that as flirting on a certain level
And yes, there is still the drool-worthy boy. Here's hoping we have actual chemistry when it's not just a static picture.
No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path. - Gautama Siddharta
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Oh yeah! The impoderable...
I was up all night on 11th/12th September 2001 - just had to keep watching... as a reault I saw things happen in real time that were unimagineable and I wept... really wept... but the only difference I noticed the next day was that people hugged one another a little more, sterangers made eye contact, even in their cars... and there were moe prayer vigils and multi-faith groups working to help people who were traumatised than I've seen before or since...
I too, felt so sad that so many people had to die together in a pointless way... and a lot of you won't understand this (most of my friends don't) but I never hated the terrorist... I've just felt increadible sad that they have lived lives that were so devoid of perspective that they thought this was a good thing to do. What kind of a society lets that happen?
I don't fear being caught up in a terrorist attack (which you might think is easy to say living in Melbourne, but when we had the Commonwealth Games here earlier this year I saw a lot of the police and army preparations and emergency plans - not all - but more than most people saw) I think it's more likely that I'll be killed by a drunk driver or run over by a bus, but I feel sadness that this is the world we live in.
I've another, related imponderable though...
Is it easier to relate to the loss of life in, say the World Trade Centre tradgedy or the 7th July London attacks than for those in Drought stricken, war-torn or natural disaster struck places that have vastly different lifestyles to our own? If so - why is that?
OK - Morbid and creepifying..."I love my Captain!"
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perhaps so then, but that's just semantics 
well, at least you fancy his picture, that bode's well, did you fancy dry-toast's picture?
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Hmmmmm... Not as much. I thought he looked a little scruffy. Well, he does to me. Too much beardage.
No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path. - Gautama Siddharta
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