Male and Female Imponderables--Cry Baby Cry
POSTED BY: Tristan
UPDATED: Monday, August 14, 2006 15:47
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Mornin' to all.
Wow, had to catch up quick. Lots of disussion. Really caught my eye DTH's comment on terrorism. Not alotta folks can grasp the concept until they live it. So many of my fellow Americans are too out of touch with the world around them.
Would like to rant on the subject, but it seems to be such a different language to unknowing people. In a way I am glad the people around me are unknowing of the violence men are capable.
Lots going on right now. May be back in a bit.
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hehe, well, as a male who takes full advantage of a certain amount of tolerance towards geekish behaviour, i can't bring myself to be commenting, i'd only wind up gloating, knowing me.
as for parents who are less then tolerant towards the time hobbies can take up, my mum gets the same deal from my grandma SpaceAnJL, according to my grandma, my mum spends more time with her horse then her family, and all is not right with this. Now the rest of us came t terms with the fact that she loves the horse more about two days after she got it, but it still seems to get on grandma's nerve's 
honestly think it's just a bit of a generation gap in action.
Awww, *hugs to seryn* could be worse, just tell yourself they've just given up all hope on him, but still have hope for you 
(not that i think being geeky or nerdish isn't a perfectly funky way to be, as said, taking full advantage of tolerance towards it, but there's them out there as look down on us *shifty eyes* they're out there...)
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Morning, all!
Dating horror stories? I've got a few, but the one that always sends chills down my spine is the French girl I married. You talked about figuratively kissing frogs, PR? I did it in real life! 
Just because this one did not seem to work out does not mean there will not be others.
Traveler, not sure I did this before, but welcome to the thread! I was with you on that River thing...I have come to the point where I don't want to deal with her anymore. I'll post warnings about her, but am going to try not to directly interact with her.
Whitefall, college is better. No matter what happens, always think that, and it will be. 
Magdalena...I once again apologize for the actions of a member of my sex. 
Not sure where the 9/11 imponderable came in, but I was working at Honeywell at the time on a computer database project for them. A portion of the Honeywell entity, for those that don't know, repair and perform maintenance on commercial airplane parts. It's a decent-sized plant, and it was always noisy and bustling. Except on that day. It started with someone saying they heard a Cessna or something hit one of the twin towers. An hour later, no one was working adn all the tv's were tuned to the news. Unbelievable is the only word that can sum up the whole thing.
It's easier for me to be empathetic towards the death of someone living the same "lifestyle", because I can relate better. For war-torn, drought-stricken place; I have never lived there, so my ignorance is mighty. That may not be a good thing, but it is my reality.
PurplePenguin91, welcome! Glad you're here!
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Mornin' Tristan.
It is a good thing to be ignorant of such things. There has to be people in IRL to hold things together before, during, and after the fact. There has to be people worth fighting and dying to protect. And there has to be a balance of negative and posative. If I had no one to live for, I'd most definately be empty inside, outside of society, and merely a shadow of a man.
I hope for people to be greatful for every breath not polluted by cordite or rot. I hope people can bitch and moan about trivial crap and be capable of doing so without fear of violent retribution. And I hope that someday my children will not be tainted by the strange sadness that never seems to go away.
People have to know that there are folks who put themselves in harms way for their well being. That is the sacrafice of what people call heroes.
There are no special powers or fancy costumes. Just people who'd rather live normal peaceful lives, but for whatever reasons are not capable of doing so until the job is done.
So yes Tristan, it is a good thing you are ignorant to such things. You like everyone else have your own trauma and tragedy. Though we have others to help us in bad times, ultimately what we do is up to us. I honestly struggled with being home as opposed to being abroad. But I made my choice and am very glad I did.
Love to all.
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Ok, i don't know how to do the emoticon thing, but NVG needs the hug passing on i thik. That was very, as someone said before, eloquent.
*hugs*
Now, This one had to be bought out and shown to the world.
Everybody - say thank you Arcadia.
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt
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No hugs needed. Though, pass those hugs to someone IRL today. Someone near you may need one. Give them one from me too.
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Originally posted by Tristan:
Traveler, not sure I did this before, but welcome to the thread! I was with you on that River thing...I have come to the point where I don't want to deal with her anymore. I'll post warnings about her, but am going to try not to directly interact with her.
PurplePenguin91, welcome! Glad you're here!
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Hello Tristan:
Those, and there were more than one, threads have been moved to Troll country. I have seen this before and you are right. Do not feed the trolls. She/He/It tried to play mind games with onthedrift, but didn't work.
Just know I will always fight to stop this kind of behavior and protect our new people and those who are very young from these lunatics.
Love
Traveler
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Ok, although I just finished one of Atwood's big bad AP feminist metaphor books, I'll refrain from blowing up at SpaceAnjl's relations in feminist semi-rightousness.
Anyhoo... On the geekyness, with my family it's all about reading. My sisters would read so much, it was at least comparable to my computer time, which used to be a lot more than it is now. Used to be i'd be playing games or online all the time, now i'm on the computer when i'm not at rehearsal or school, ie doing something. So I dont feel bad about it, when I'm at home I'm usually on the computer, then I go out sometimes. (less during summer of course). The thing in my family is somehow reading is vastly glorified over computers (despite the fact that both my parents are into computer businesses) and so I get the scorn (real from my dad, mostly imagined from my mom) of being on the computer to much, even if i'm talking to fine folks like you all, while my siblings would just read in solitude. Which is better? I don't pretend to know, but i'd prefer if they were judged more equally.
As for dating, I'm just not interested, it always seems like a contradiction, 'the lie of it' to quote Mal, and I know someone else mentioned the odd dance of trying to impress each other, I'm just not interested. I love spending time with other folk, generally moreso the ladies, but I don't want to make folk uncomfortable. (I know, I know, it's not them i'm protecting, blah blah blah, but in all seriousness, most of the women I know arent interested in the trivialities of dating anyways.) I'm just working on the assumption that sooner or later I'll find folk who are into such things, someone who likes me, that I like them, that we wouldnt have to exchange the dating cliches. And if that's idealism, then stick me back in my crate, I'm an idealist.
Or a geek who's afraid of girls.
(Don't you like how I linked it all together?)
"But, these strong women characters?"
"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon
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9/11 starts much earlier than 2001 for me.
My New York starts in the Fall of 1989, when I was stationed at Governors Island. This was Old New York, before Guilliani 'cleaned' it. In other words, it was dirty, dangerous, and all together everything that makes a city interesting. 42nd and B'way was this crowded mass of people where you had to walk with your hand on your wallet and you couldnt walk 20 feet without someone walking up to you asking 'Yo yo yo smoke? Dope? Coke? ses? ses?"
When I came back years latter, Times Square was a dead place, a New York themed Disney theme park. The hookers and drug dealers where somewhere off camera, replaced by more efficient pushers and whores - those of Hollywood and Madison Av.
I used to commute through the Trade Center - I always remember the mall that was beneath the Towers - no one ever speaks of this place, but to me it was particularly New York. This vast, underground stream of people, swirling and rushing, eddies of shoppers outside the stores, rumbling business execs from New Jersey racing to their Important Jobs.
I was in Boston on September 11th of 2001. Unemployed, not yet calling my animation career dead in the water. My phone rang, and the machine picked up, it was my Mother-in-Law "Hi, in case you're wondering, I'm ok..." Uh. Why would I wonder that?
Well, I picked up and found out. And for the rest of the day I sat dumbstruck, staring at the incessant news coverage.
Its not possible. You cant knock down the World Trade Center towers. Its like saying you've just knocked down the Grand Tetons. And yet, I saw it, there they went, one then the other.
We went to Cape Cod over the weekend - my parents had intended to come up on the 13th, but that wasnt going to happen.
I noticed two things - first, that for the first time in at least 3 decades, there werent any airplanes in the sky. Second, that I was avoiding the news - an event that hadnt occured since I was a preschooler and wouldnt watch the news because of the Vietnam coverage.
For my Mother-in-law, the events of 9/11 were much closer. She has an insane commute, from Westchester County, NY, down to D.C. She flew out from Newark Airport while the hijacked planes were in the air, landed in D.C. - noticed on passing the TVs in the terminal that some skyscraper was on fire, then noticed as she rode the subway that the Pentagon stop was closed, but didnt think anything of it. And didnt know that the United States was under a terrorist attack until she got to her office, and was greeted by tearful coworkers who knew she was flying out of the same airport as the terrorists.
"Don't put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That's why they're called revolutions. People die, and nothing changes." -Terry Pratchett "Night Watch"
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My 9/11 began in shop class. The class had just begun when the teacher left for a while, pretty much leaving us to our own devices. When he came back, he spotted me near the door, and told me what was happening. Strangely, he told JUST me. As if it were my job to tell everybody else. He walked right back out again, and I had to tell the rest of them that class was cancelled.
Yeah, most of that day I spent in the Sessions room watching the fires on the big TVs. I caught the second impact on a replay, having arrived too late. It didn't really touch me, but then again, that was pretty much when I was reaching the lowest part of my depression anyway. A lot of folk were twitchy that day. I wasn't. Hell, I wasn't much of anything back in the day.
As for geekiness, I think it's just the infrequency of females towards geekdom which shocks and amazes men. I am a geek, but my family takes it in stride. My mother is obsessive, most recently with canine husbandry. My father's an oddball, my brother's a musician (with all it entails), so it seems I never really did stand a chance to fall into the 'mainstream'. Bah, I wouldn't have enjoyed it that much anyway. Besides, an obsession with a TV show his hardly a Geek-worthy offence against the normal-majority... Well, in my case, it probably is, since I learned how to swear in Mandarin...
But I digress.
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I ain't lookin' for help from on high. That's a damn long wait for a train don't come.
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