Twenty-Sixth floor: Nice folk on the move, Hide!
POSTED BY: Jadehand
UPDATED: Friday, August 25, 2006 15:25
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creative MSpaint editing... sounds tedious, but could be fun with the right results.
"I have been here many times before In a life I used to live
But I have never seen these streets so fresh Washed with morning rain
I have seen this face a thousand times Every morning of my life
But I never saw these eyes so clear Free of doubt and pain
Like the whole world has been made again."
Made Again (Brave)-Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.
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You should LMD. I'd like to see them!
Serenity,
First Officer of Destiny
President of The Juggled Gosling Chatroom
Bride8
http://callmeserenity.livejournal.com/
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Hum.. I wonder what Autumn in New Zealand would be like. THAT would be a sight to behold!
Did you know that Japanese is read right to left. Their books all begin at what we would deem the back page and go to the front. I did not know that until a professor of mine brought some Japanese scholars to class. They brought some anime books with them--these fat, paperback novel sized comics. SO cool!
Wacky fun!
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It is tedious, for sure
I'll try to drag out some of the old stuff tonight when I get home...see if I can find any of it.
There are a couple of books in english written that way...by a fairly creative author, Piers Anthony.
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I used to read Piers Anthony. Xanth. I read a lot of those when I was younger. Never really got into a lot of his other stuff, though.
I write in all of my journals from back to front. It seems to me to be the best way and the rest of you are backwards.
It's another reason why I think I would very much enjoy learning Hebrew. Everything's written right to left and back to front. Fantastic.
Serenity,
First Officer of Destiny
President of The Juggled Gosling Chatroom
Bride8
http://callmeserenity.livejournal.com/
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You write in your journals back to front? Are you left handed? How very cool! I guess that way when you go back and read it you kinda start from the most recent and then go to the most distant--like a literal way of going back in time.
Piers Anthony. Never heard of him, I don't think. Maybe I'll have to check him out, though, because reading that way might be fun.
Wacky fun!
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Quote:Welcome to the fun and exciting (and sometimes really tedious) world of manga!
Originally posted by Mattie:
They brought some anime books with them--these fat, paperback novel sized comics. SO cool!
Manga is usually published in magazines with multiple different titles. You may have seen Shonen Jump, a manga collection that has gained popularity in NorAm. Eventually, these anthologies are compiled into manga digests (which is what you describe, so we can buy them by title without having to get a bunch of other stories). The digests are kinda like "DVD comics," and include "extras" like editorial essays and comments by the artist/writer. Of course, manga creators are very busy people, so sometimes they get distracted by other paying gigs (paging Anno Hideaki, wherever he is).
The manga "style" (actually a wide variety of styles allowing just about anything) is really catching on, and TokyoPop has started running a bi-annual contest called Rising Stars of Manga, for aspiring manga-ka (that's what manga artists/writers call themselves) to submit their best work, get published, and maybe hit it big.
Past winners include Van Von Hunter ( http://www.vanvonhunter.com/index.html). Unfortunately, I can't find the Rising Stars webpage, and I'm unable to get the manga until a year or so after it's published ('cause I'm living in the centre of a cultural black hole).
Pretty much any animé series has a companion manga, usually going in a wildly different direction. Typically, stories start out in manga form, and are then adapted into animé (Sailor Moon is an example: it started out as a really cool manga, and was then dumbed-down into an anime series, which was then further dumbed-down as it was translated into English --the manga is surprisingly dark). Animé production usually tends to go faster, meaning that the animé ends up out-pacing the manga and having to make stuff up. This happened to Hellsing, which is why they're releasing a new Helsing Ultimate OVA, which does follow the manga storyline.
Other times, an animé series is adapted into manga, as with Evangelion. Both Eva series are written by the same guy, but he explains that he was "in a bad place" when he wrote the animé, and it shows. He's less angry "now," and the manga is a bit. . . healthier (well, less insane). Unfortunately, we've been waiting for volume 10 for over two years now.
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
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WOW! You're right, what they brought in was manga, not anime. I was just too lazy to look it up in my brain. I never really knew the difference between anime and manga, and so I just supposed it was one in the same. Obviously I was wrong!
So, to make sure I've got it. Anime is gets pumped out like there's no tomorrow and as a result is kinda cheap and the story lines aren't very deep. Sometimes they are ripped off versions of manga series, but due to production, things get left out.
Manga, on the other hand, is like the souped up version of anime. Pretty much the opposite of what I just described above. Right?
Wacky fun!
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I've been interested in some manga before, but I always struggle enjoying them. I have a hard time keeping interested with the comic book style...not sure why :(
If I ever get over what's stopping me, first one'll be Trigun Maximum (love the anime to death).
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(In case anyone's wondering, I'm not being intentionally pedantic, it's just that I'm an aspiring writer with a fascination with animé/manga storytelling style.)
Quote:Well, animé isn't necessarily cheap or shallow (Firefly aside, the best American TV can offer is on par with low-mediocre animé). There are cases where the animé's better (a lot of manga uses this etherial, floaty art style that looks really pretty but isn't very easy to figure out), or adds completely new characters (like Ayame in InuYasha). Mangas are usually produced by one person (with only minor input/aid from editors, publishers, etc), while animé needs to be more collaborative (multiple animators, voice actors, scriptwriters, producers, directors, etc).
Originally posted by Mattie:
So, to make sure I've got it. Anime is gets pumped out like there's no tomorrow and as a result is kinda cheap and the story lines aren't very deep. Sometimes they are ripped off versions of manga series, but due to production, things get left out.
You can actually get a good analogy with American cartoons/comics: cartoons are a half-hour long and come out every week, while comics are less than 30 pages every month (assuming no production delays or writers being distracted by something shiny). Usually, it's just not possible for manga to cover as much territory. Animé/manga is produced somewhat differently, but the same philosophy holds; manga just comes out really slowly, and individual issues can usually be read through in 10 minutes.
In fact, animé can often go into greater depth, by taking a one or two-part story and stretching it out over a half-dozen episodes. (Again, Sailor Moon is an example; the entire first season/series/year of the animé [up until Rini appears] accounts for only one or two manga digests.)
(The main thing to keep in mind about Japanese [and, I believe, British] TV is that they don't use the American model. In America, one of the goals is to try to keep the series going [staving off cancellation] for as long as possible. In Japanese and British TV, deals are made for "series," which run X number of episodes --and [barring spectacularly bad ratings or other uncontrollable circumstances] you get the full set, then it's done. If it's a runaway success, networks may ask the creator/studio for another series [or studios can take the initiative and try to sell another series], which is similarly planned out. Beginning, middle, end, all set out [or at least considered] before penning the first ep. I've yet to hear of an animé series getting cancelled. Manga, from what I can see, runs more like American TV, continuing on either until fans or creators get tired [this isn't to say manga-ka don't plan things out, it's just that they don't have to count how many issues they've got left]. Even then, there needn't be a real "cancellation," but their stories just kinda trail off and new manga are slipped into the magazines).
Just thought of another (extreme) example: Ghost in the Shell, which has three distinct continuities:
-The movie 'verse (Ghost in the Shell and GitS: Innocence).
-The manga 'verse (GitS, GitS: Man-Machine Interface)
-The series 'verse (GitS: Stand-Alone Complex [series 1], GitS: S.A.C. 2nd Gig [series 2], and GitS: S.A.C. Solid-State Society [OVA])
Each of these universes is self-contained, but with similar characters and events uniting all three. Personally, I prefer the series (the movie characters aren't really that likeable, and the manga borders on Rob Liefield-ism (Masamune Shirow is mainly famous for drawing cheesecake in anatomically stilted poses, but S.A.C. watches like a cyberpunk version of the A-Team).
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
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