There is no God.
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CTC,
That's actually the clearest statement of your position on anything, that I've seen. Cool. Nice to hear your voice.
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Quote:Erm in that case scientifically there is no such thing as hot. Hot and cold are arbitary labels we apply to the scale of thermal energy which is merely atomic excitation.
Originally posted by Fizzix:
Scientifically, there is no such thing as cold.
Antarctica can be cold, but compared to an asteroid in deep space at roughly cosmic background temperature (~3k) it is extremly hot.
Cold is the opposite of Hot, taken strictly neither exist scientifically.
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RugBug
As the ONE TRUE BOOK says "Do not let your heart be troubled Lorithiel, Spring-maiden of the Eldar," she said, her voice low and soft. "For even in your time of need the Lords of the West have bent their thought upon your Quest, and you do not ride out alone."
Or was that ONE RIng.........hmmmm
I don't think you should feel isolated, you just happened into a discussion that is bound to bring all those with opposing views as well as some who just like playing devils advocate.
All should be entitled to their opinion people, and we should be glad that there is somone in this country that labels themselves a Christian and isn't a raving lunatic.
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Really the "Western" God and Eastern Philosophy isn't compatible and that is why the East feel the West is so backward.
I don't know about CofE, but over here there is a very definitive teaching of God and right and wrong and there are no gray areas. There is no praying to anyone else, no belief that anything or anyone is to be revered above God. God and God alone is all there is. In the East, as I understand it, there is so much more. So this is not a case of opposites. This is a case of 2 completely different belief systems and I just don't see how they can be compared.
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Originally posted by misbehaven:Quote:
state these facts please.
I think we all know the world is billions of years old, not thousands. It was created over billions of years, not in seven days. I think it safe to say man wasn't created from a pile of dirt, nor woman from rib. Do I really need to go on here?
Besides I'm not trying to convert anyone to Atheism, so I really don't think the burden of proof is on me to illustrate that God doesn't exist. I think it should be firmly placed on those who believe he does, since they expect me to devout my life to him.
But they were not those who asserted that their claims were based on facts. You were. Besides, no one asked you to, "illustrate that God doesn't exist," and to even talk about doing it is to change the subject. You were instead asked to back up your personal claim that, "Atheists back up their claims with scientific facts, not blind faith."
And I think you do need to go on, but in a different way, because all you said was, "Atheists back up their claims with scientific facts, not blind faith." You didn't say which claims those were. So far there seems to be only one claim, "The creation story of the Jewish and Christian faiths can not be taken litteraly," and I can point you to many Jews and Christians who agree with you, so that doesn't exactly set the two appart much.
After all, the dividing line between atheists and non-atheists isn't based on whether or not they believe a certain chapter of a certain book is litteral fact. Someone can reject the entire bible (which would be a mistake, science supports some parts of it) and still be very much non-atheist.
So could you please list which claims atheists base on fact? I'd that muchly.
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Thanks CTC
My thoughts exactly!
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Originally posted by citizen:Quote:Erm in that case scientifically there is no such thing as hot. Hot and cold are arbitary labels we apply to the scale of thermal energy which is merely atomic excitation.
Originally posted by Fizzix:
Scientifically, there is no such thing as cold.
Antarctica can be cold, but compared to an asteroid in deep space at roughly cosmic background temperature (~3k) it is extremly hot.
Cold is the opposite of Hot, taken strictly neither exist scientifically.
No, Heat does exist. Cold does not, scientifically. Cold and Hot are relative terms. Scientifically, there is heat energy. That is heat. Cold is not a sceintifically viable energy. There are only reductions in heat energy.
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found this on You tube
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Quote:And when I'm comparing them this will make sense.
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
This is a case of 2 completely different belief systems and I just don't see how they can be compared.
Why is no one arguing against Hot and Cold, Left and Right, Up and Down, Heads and tails. Why's the focus on Yin and Yang? I mention Yin and Yang and all of a sudden I'm comparing Christianity to Taoism?
Left and right are opposites and one cannot exist without the other; Yin and Yang are opposites and cannot exist without the other. Am I now saying Taoism and spatial vectoring are one in the same?
What's with the big sticking point on Yin and Yang? Okay imagine I never mentioned Yin and Yang, there's still hot and cold, left and right, up and down, heads and tails to illustrate my point.
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I didn't say anything about heat, I said hot, hot is the opposite of cold, if cold does not exist neither does hot.
And technically isn't absolutle zero, the point where all atomic movement stops cold? At absolute zero there is no thermal energy, no heat...
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