Does Firefly promote Prostitution?

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FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, January 22, 2004 2:18 PM

"Those willing to sacrifice liberty for security shall not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
Benjamin Franklin.

-frem
diefuxdie

HERO

Thursday, January 22, 2004 2:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
I don't know if it promote's prostitution. However I remember seeing a Pepsi commercial aired during a broadcast of Firefly back when it was on the air. So I'd say it promotes Pepsi.

I had some Pepsi last night even though I much prefer coke and Dr. Pepper. What's happening to me?

H

CAPTAINCDC

Thursday, January 22, 2004 3:02 PM

You took the words right out of my mouth Steve580. I could not have said it better myself.

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

DORAN

Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:38 PM

"Ever actually been to Japan?"

Yes.. lived there for three years.

"Geishas are not prostitutes. What they actually do is to elevate cultured feminity to an art form..."

Japan has a word for "prostitute posing as a geisha" that literally means "uneducated female entertainer".. inferring that they haven't received the full cultural training of a geisha.
This being said, it's important to note that the education of sex and pleasure was and I believe still is a part of traditional geisha training. Geisha are not required to have intercourse with clients. But neither is it prohibited

I feel a little qualified to discuss this only because I used to have a girl friend who was a geisha and quit to move to the USA. She and I discussed this topic to death. (I miss listening to her play her koto late into the evening)

Though rank and file prostitution is illegal in Japan, there is a fine line between that and the sex that is legal to pay for there.

Promoting protitution is certainly something that Mal did not do. He didn't discourage his crew from participating in it.. in "Heart of Gold". The fact is, it appears that the legalized protitution in the Firefly world is actually Alliance sponsored.

So the answer to the question, "does Firefly promote legal prostitution" I'd say would be no.

HOTPOINT

Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:57 PM

Interesting thread. Morals and ethical arguments are a fascinating arena, I'll inject a touch of my own thoughts via a couple of quotes because they say it better than I ever could

"There are no moral phenomena there is only a moral interpretation of phenomena" Freidrich Nietzche - Beyond Good and Evil

"The only justifiable limit of liberty is when the exercise of that freedom infringes on the liberty of others" J.S. Mill - On Liberty

Philosophy - The subject you study at University and get to use maybe three times a year

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LTNOWIS

Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Drakon:

Drug use can lead to violence, or other irresponsible behavior that society is left to clean up. Gambling can lead to bankrupting a family, leaving the wife and kids to starve.

Plus, there's all those competing drug lords. In the 1990s, murder and robbery rates plummeted, and one theory says that's because people stopped using crack, and started using marijuana. If you don't believe me, check out the latest Scientific American.

LTNOWIS

Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:53 PM

Be aware that I'm playing devil's advocate in my post, and don't neccesarily support all these extreme measures.

Quote:
Originally posted by Steve580:
The only things that should be crimes are actions that violate the freedoms of others, in my mind. Homicide, rape, arson - these all affect others.

But what if you lived in Canada, or somewhere else with a socialized health care system? Consider this scenario: Some Canadian smokes ciggarettes, inhaling cancer-causing nicotine. The tar and carbon monoxide probably don't help either. Eventually he gets cancer, and 5 doctors have to slice a tumor out of him in a giant operation. The Canadian taxpayer unfairly has to pay the bill due to someone's negligence.

Also, when you say that bans don't work, you may be right. But we could make them work by raising the penalties until they violate the Constitution. If we had all illegal drug possesion punishable by death, we'd have a lot less drug addicts. Of course, we'd also have to give our cops M-16s and bulletproof vests.

One way to stop the tobacco problem completely would be to ban it for everybody born in the 21st century. Then everybody born after 2000 would know that if they smoked they'd get 150 years in jail. For addicted immigrants, you'd just deport them.

But that's just babble. I say legalize drugs, prostitution and gambling, but you'd need a permit for the first two, and you'd need to pass a class about the risks. Of course, you'd also need to let me have an assault rifle for defense against drugged-up theives.

LADYJAYNE

Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:53 PM

Quote:
(An anarchist is someone who believes in less government than you do.)

And the definition of "promiscuous" is someone who's getting laid more than you do.

Interesting discussion. It's nice to hear one with strong opinions that doesn't resort to name calling.

--Kala

LTNOWIS

Thursday, January 22, 2004 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by ladyjayne:

It's nice to hear one with strong opinions that doesn't resort to name calling.

Yeah, but after a few days of word-twisting and opinion differences, things might get ugly.

LOADANDMAKEREADY

Friday, January 23, 2004 2:29 AM

And the definition of "promiscuous" is someone who's getting laid more than you do.
--Kala

So everyone on the planet is more promiscuous than I am?

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