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End Times

POSTED BY: Misstressahara
UPDATED: Monday, August 7, 2006 19:25
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Friday, August 4, 2006 4:55 AM

you all can believe that the Bible is a clever fairy tell all you want; im sorry you feel that way. unfortunately, the Bible is an obstacle, like the constitution, for a global totalitarian government...so if it was created to control the masses, they did a crappy job! why not tell us that Jesus wants a global government, or that money is a fruit of our labor; why take the opposite stance?

i really dont want to get into my defense of the Bible, the prophecies that have literally been fullfilled, etc..because it is incredibly time consuming.

but as Jesus said, "he who has an ear, let him hear"

the antiChrist, the man of lawlessness, the beast, call him whatever you want, he exists in both the new and old testaments. so this is not a later addition invented for dramatic reasons

i will say this...do you want to know why i feel the urge to warn people about the antiChrist?

because he will decieve the world!! maybe people deserve to hear what is coming upon them, so they may be saved...but i guess thats a selfish motive isnt it? its selfish to want people to resist a tyrannical force..but of course, you wouldnt know that, unless you studied the prophecies, so theres obviously a catch 22 here isnt there?

if, when the Antichrist comes, he will provide such signs and wonders, that "even the elect will be decieved, if it were possible", then non-believers, and even Christians ought to know, that their is a LIE, a deception currently taking place that will fool even the faithfull.

there are plenty of Christians out there, who think Bush is really fighting a war on terror, that their are evil Islamists out there who hate democracy and hate freedom, and that we need to fight a war anytime someone disagrees with us...but that doesnt mean he speaks for Jesus, or speaks for all christians.

Jesus says "it is hard for a rich man to get into heaven. it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, then for a rich man to get into heaven". why is that? is it because money is the root of many evils? is Bush not rich, and do the rich not run the world? if the love of money is evil, does that not make empirical conquests for profit and control evil?

Bush is a known Skull and Bones member! claim all you want that its just some college fraternity, but realize that there is only 1 Jesus, 1 christianity. when Jesus says "love your God above all others, and love your brother as yourself; this is the single greatest commandment" this leaves NO ROOM FOR SECRET SOCIETIES! and it especially exludes Satanic organisations like skull and bones, freemasonry, and the illuminati. think about it, if sin entered the world through Adam, and death through sin, then death is the symbol of sin, which was instigated through Satan. hence the symbolism of the skeleton, hence the reason theyre called "the order of Death". does that sound Christian to you? the Nazis, the Skull and Bones...they are Satanic mystery cults

members of these groups, Kissinger, Rockefeller, Bush sr. have all openly admitted a goal for a New World Order. if the anti-Christ reigns over a one world government, and the Bush clan has stated in the past that they intend to initiate a "new world order", then i think you had better listen up and understand what theyre telling you!

let me give you an example of the mark of the beast. if you take a micro chip, because you believe its an antiterror measure...realize that Jesus said that whoever takes the mark to save their life, will lose their life in eternity. is that not something everyone should know? especially if the context calling for a trackable microchip or ID card was manufactured or engineered by those in power? that is my entire point!

pardon me for wanting to alert people that the masses are being decieved by antiChristian political philospohies, like our current fascit neocon foreign policy.

this is likened to 9/11 for me; if the government in fact did orchestrate or allow 9/11, doesnt the public have the right to know, given the last 5 yrs of politics?

well

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Friday, August 4, 2006 5:25 AM

Yes they have all called for a new world order..problem is it used to mean something different before conspiracy and religious kooks hijacked it an said "see...one leader to rule all".."The end times are here, the end times are hear!" please save all this crap for a different board..was amusing the first couple of threads..but you repeat this garbage for any topic....Go pull the left behind "NOVELS" from arse and chew on those for awhile. sh*t I'm going to bed..........

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Friday, August 4, 2006 5:55 AM

this is exactly the problem..

do you believe in Jesus? if so, you CANNOT seperate the Bible from reality, as if they exist seperately.

politics, prophecy, they go hand in hand.

people understand that the Bible predicts an end of the age, a tribulation period...yet they dont seek to understand the circumstances which bring upon these events.

they know there is a Satan, and fallen angelic forces who are at his disposal, yet they refuse to believe that he affects the world in any way.

if you arent a believer, then that explains it..but if you are, draw some connections.

whether you believe in Jesus or not, understand there are cults of people who believe in his counterpart, and they worship him as the "light bringer". any cursory study into the occult and lucifer will make that obvious right away.

you want to deny that these people have any power? fine....tell that to the 4 million Jews who died in the holocaust, at the hands of the Nazis and the Thule society. did you know Eckart, the leader of the Thule society, believed Hitler to be THE ANTICHRIST?? or is that an irrelevent sidenote?

this is the difference between me and you i guess

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Friday, August 4, 2006 10:51 PM

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Nice list. I want to remind everyone that however many folk end up predicting the end of the world...they only need to be right once.


Forgive me if I don't hold my breath.

-Frem

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RUE
Saturday, August 5, 2006 12:48 AM

This is kinda interesting to me, I'm lurking to see what gets posted. Like CTS on the unemployment thread, I've got my popcorn.

Plus I'm waiting for the signal to wail and gnash my teeth.

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 1:43 AM

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Originally posted by antimason:
this is exactly the problem..

do you believe in Jesus? if so, you CANNOT seperate the Bible from reality, as if they exist seperately.

if you arent a believer, then that explains it..but if you are, draw some connections.




Well, I believe in Jesus as a historical figure, and quite possibly a living Buddha or Avatar of something divine, but if you mean, "Do (I) believe in Jesus as the one true Son of God", well, no I don't, so I guess I escape that particular logical trap.

Of course, if I'm wrong, then by your rules I'm screwed. But the chips are still on the table at this point, and nobody knows which slot the little ball will fall in. If, after your death, you find yourself facing Egyptian deities weighing your heart against a feather, or Charon asking for the coins off your eyes for the ferryman's fee, you'll probably feel pretty sheepish yourself.

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whether you believe in Jesus or not, understand there are cults of people who believe in his counterpart, and they worship him as the "light bringer". any cursory study into the occult and lucifer will make that obvious right away.



Oh, yeah, the classic method of winning a theological argument: Invoke Devil Worship. Trumps just about anything.

For what it's worth, Satanism has never been anything but a faint, funhouse mirror distortion of Christianity--although mainstream Christianity's propensity to paint any non-christian religion as devil worship may tend to obscure that fact.


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you want to deny that these people have any power? fine....tell that to the 4 million Jews who died in the holocaust, at the hands of the Nazis and the Thule society. did you know Eckart, the leader of the Thule society, believed Hitler to be THE ANTICHRIST?? or is that an irrelevent sidenote?


Umm--if Hitler was the AntiChrist, then Armageddon should have happened about fifty years ago, and we should be deep into the first century of the millenium right now. I'm pretty sure I would have picked up on that--it'd probably be in all the papers.

So, since that didn't happen, the fact that someone thought Hitler was the AntiChrist probably is just an "irrelevent" (sic) sidenote. And proof that it's really easy to be wrong about Biblical prophecies. I'm just saying.

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this is the difference between me and you i guess



Well, that and the fact that the other people on this thread were members of Fireflyfans.net further back than two days ago, which is when you made your first post. (I checked your profile.) So, do you spend all your free time Googling "End Times", and throwing your two cents in?

Geez. And I thought I needed to get a life.

"Religion easily—has the best bullshit story of all time. Think about it. Religion has convinced people that there's an invisible man...living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn't want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money." -- George Carlin

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 3:06 AM

And you Antimason are the reason we Catholics have a bad reputation.

Let me ask you something, did you come on this site and de-lurk just to stir things up? And do you actually KNOW what Firefly is? If you say you've never seen the show, then do us the favor of leaving.

Sorry my post got this kind of reaction, I was just angry over that religous nut using the war as a means of making money off the populous.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

I remember watching that Carlin special RocketJock. I giggled when I read the quote.

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Saturday, August 5, 2006 4:18 AM

first of all...last i checked, this was a country and a planet where you could speak whats on your mind. do you disagree? then maybe you should leave.

to my critic, if you are not a christian, then why bother debating any of my points? theyre irrelevent to you, no? if there is no omnipresent, omnipotent being, what do you care what anyone on the face of the planet does to another?

its significant that Eckhart believed Hitler to be antichrist because he believed that Satan exists! the Nazis werent athiests, mmmk. i never said that ww2 was the end; period.

i never even said anything but christianity is Satanic...i mean, its more fun to start arguements when you put words in other peoples mouths, but im not biting.

if you want to deny that everything i said has any credence, fine! dont say i never warned you



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Saturday, August 5, 2006 4:21 AM

oh yah..if Jesus wasnt God, then he was techinically a physco path, because he all but admitted that he was God. so believing in Jesus as God manifest is what makes us Christians..i dont worship any human being, not buddha, not the dali lama, no one

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RUE
Saturday, August 5, 2006 4:35 AM

dbl

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