Male and Female Imponderables - If music be the food of love, play on

POSTED BY: PhoenixRose
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 13:04
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WHITEFALL

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:05 PM

Hey, I read pride and prejudice, and i prefer the womenfolk! I read it for school, but then, I picked it, so. Still, I read it.

It sorta confused me originally tho. However, I saw the play of it a few months back, the whole thing felt a ton more cohesive. Tis a good book tho.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

RUGBUG

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:06 PM

Seryn: Jane Austen is my favorite author with Mansfield Park being my favorite of her books, but I do love them all.

How could you place Austen in the same category as Jackie Collins? I won't even read that. Austen is classic, Collins is fluff.

But I am surprised that your friend is reading P&P. It's a bit girly, but how would you classify other classics? Many, even those written by men, are of a "softer" bent.

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"My feelings are changeable but intense" Anya (season 7 Buffy)

SIMONWHO

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by seryn:
Most men i've tried to interest (she is after all, one of the best social satirists ever) have shuddered at the thought.

I was made to read it at University but couldn't get through it. Skip forward 7 years and I pick up a copy out of vague interest in reading something "improving" and was utterly delighted by it.

It's a great book - though it's strange that any story told from a woman's point of view is regarded as a "girl's" book. Perhaps it has just been marketed that way recently, what with the ladies swooning over Colin Firth in wet clothing and Bridget Jones's Diary. It's funny, intelligent and interesting throughout plus it is set in my favourite place: the England that never existed.

SERYN

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:22 PM

I was going to add to that sentence about the possible reason most men don't read them is becuase they are rubbish, but i didn't want to offend anyone.

Austen is also my favorite author - mansfield park i love (have you seen the film adap.? I think they did a good job - NVG you'll like it too - theres sex in it!)but i find Fanny just a little irritating, I think P&P is my favorite - Elizabeth is just a wonderful character, and, I flatter myself - out of all Austens female characters i'm most like her, so it gives me hope that a Darcy will show up one day (if thats not the absolute most stupidest thing i've ever written).

Anyway, I'd say things like Dickens, Hardy, Homer etc are the unisex ones, and writers like Scott (Ivanhoe) and Stevensen (Treasure Island) are more male.

Its completely wrong of me to think like this, but i never realised i did until yesterday - and now i can set about changing my mind.

Now, This one had to be bought out and shown to the world.
Everybody - say thank you Arcadia.

http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

RUGBUG

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:31 PM

Yep, I've got the movie of Mansfield Park (and the others: S&S, Emma, Clueless). Only thing I didn't like about it was what appeared to be interjection regarding Sir Thomas Bertram and his extra-curricular activities with the slaves.

Simonwho: You do know that Bridget Jones is a retelling of Pride and Prejudice, right? Colin Firth is sexy until you watch him kissing someone. He just DOES NOT look like he's a good kisser.

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"My feelings are changeable but intense" Anya (season 7 Buffy)

SERYN

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:45 PM

yes, the extracurricular with the slaves was uncalled for - it had no bearing on the story and seemed to only be there for shock value.

yes i do. But only insofar as girl, constantly embarressed by her mother, has to choose between charming rogue and uptight good guy.
Bridgit is no Lizzie, infact she irritates me to hell.
I personally can't identify with this woman that she's meant to be - the thrity something neurotic singleton or who ever, i know no one like that - and i was living in london at the time, where they're all meant to be. I just find her daft and irritating.

Someone needs to go to hollywood and teach all of these actors how to kiss on camera - no matter how gorgeous they are, they can't kiss for crap.

Personally i volunteer for that job. I honestly cant remember the last time i saw a couple kissing on screen and really wanted to be kissed like that.

actually, yes i can - Amelie. He was french - does that make a difference do you think?

Another imponderable - does anyone have first hand experience to prove or disprove these nationality stereotypes, as lovers in the widest sense i mean.

Now, This one had to be bought out and shown to the world.
Everybody - say thank you Arcadia.

http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

ODDSBODSKINS

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:55 PM

never read Pride and Prejudice i have to confess, my reading in classical social satire got to vanity fair before i discovered present day satire and fell in love trying to think of books i read recently written from the PoV of a female protagonist, all fun and games 'til somebody looses an eye i suppose, although, that probably counts as more neutral, erm, some Rose Tremain i think, maybe?

could be i'm less in tune with me feminine inner-literary-critic then the other bodies that've posted here

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:59 PM

Funny, I can't seem to find a memorable screen kiss in my head for the life of me.
Question: Do y'all remember your first real grown up kiss? Mine was with a girl I'd known my whole life and almost married. Eyes open. Holding hands. Outside standing navel to navel. Think I have a complex about it now. Whats the point in jumping out of a plane if you ain't gonna look?

Seryn- Careful with the French thing. Tristan may have a few things to say about the French. Mine is purely an American dislike for haughty folk who hate Americans. His is from experience.

"Better dead and cool
Than alive and uncool."

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:08 AM

Well folks, gotta be out for the day. Love y'all. Good night.

"Better dead and cool
Than alive and uncool."

MSG

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:14 AM

oh sure now that I can finally post, you all go home! Anyway, I missed you guys today. At least my problems are over so big HUGS and such to all and sundry
NV- you are in fine form today darlin and that's great to see...glad ms. whatever situation is done and mostly settled..now go find some hot , sweet, wild thing who appreciates you!

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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