Firefly fans have lives, okay!!!!

POSTED BY: Wolfpoet
UPDATED: Monday, July 24, 2006 22:52
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ADAMWANKENOBI

Monday, July 24, 2006 3:03 PM

So... can someone please explain to me what most people are refering to when they say someone "has no life"? I say this because, to me it sounds silly. Of course they have a life! It's a life they choose to enrich and decorate with their Firefly/Serenity or whatever obsession of their choice! I mean, what about those men who spend every waking hour thinking about football and watching football games and obsessively keeping up with team statistics. I'm sure they have lives.

WOLFPOET

Monday, July 24, 2006 4:01 PM

Come on, I go to church youth group parties on Fridays for lack of better things to do. Although that's when I first saw Serenity, but yeah, technically I do not have a life. Mostly because I'm still trying to figure my life out but also because I am a loser (yay).

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BROWNCOAT1

Monday, July 24, 2006 4:19 PM

Society has this annoying habit of having to label everything and everyone. You have to fit into a catagory of one form or another and if you don't it throws everything into a tail spin. I find it ridiculous that the stereotyping need has gotten so far out of hand, but there it is.

I am not 40, I don't live with my parents, I have a white collar job that pays well, I own my own home, have well developed children, and I don't dress like Captain Kirk or any other fictional character. The stereotype sticks though because when someone hears you like science fiction that is the first image that pops into everyone's head.

Makes me think that moving to a ranch in Montana 100 miles from the nearest person is a good idea.

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LWAVES

Monday, July 24, 2006 8:41 PM

Unfortunately stereotypes are something we have to live with and probably always will. Sci/fantasy fans do seem to get the brunt of it though.

As a side note I remember back in the 80's when home computers became a big thing (BBC Micro, Speccy C64 etc. My mate Gaz was the first one to get a Speccy and everyone thought it was great so we all got one).
Then times moved on I updated to an Amiga and so di he but he hardly used his.
Then I went to the PC and he didn't. I felt I was doing more and more stuff with it and felt great for being able to use it. He joined the group that said it was nerdy and all I ever did was 'play' on it.
Then PC's were everywhere.
He got a job that required using a computer (he's an accountant of sorts). Suddenly he knew nothing about them and was calling me up asking 'how do you do this', how do you do that'.
He eventually bought one for his home, and still refuses to learn how to do simple things with it (he can't even be bothered to figure out how to hook up to the net (no offence to others that can't either)).
I get such joy reminding him of my 'nerdy days'.

Now I'm not particularly blaming Star Trek here, coz I do like the shows, but from an outside perspective I can understand why SciFi gets such a bad rep.
This was the first instance that I know of that had such loyal fans. They saved the original show, they held conventions, they dressed up and all that other stuff. From an outside point of view it may look weird.

But I always consider this.
Sports fans go dressed in the tops of their favourite team. They'll buy badges, car stickers, flags and whatever else they can.
Collectors will hunt for hours at markets, auctions etc. for just the right item, sometimes travelling far to find it.

Are these people any different??

DONCOAT

Monday, July 24, 2006 9:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Stereotypes are sometimes good, but as we know they are usually offensive to the members of the particular group that do not share the defamatory trait.

They are also offensive to the members of the group who do share the defamatory trait.

It is, after all, a negative characterization. Nobody who applies the stereotype thinks that being a 40-year-old male living at home and having no life is a good thing. And those who fit that description may not like being that, either -- and even if they do, they don't like having someone point out how pathetic their life is (in the opinion of the pointer-outer).

The real problem is, we all apply stereotyping in one way or another. Whether it's racial, gender-based, sexual-orientation-based, Fox-programming-executiveness-based, or some other category, we all tend to put others into boxes. I do it myself sometimes, without even thinking. Actually, always without thinking, since when you're thinking you can catch yourself and resist the impulse to stereotype others.

Maybe the real lesson of this thread is: be more aware of the log in our own eye.

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TEACHDAIRE

Monday, July 24, 2006 9:13 PM

Well, I'm a thirty two your old male, I live on my own, and I still have no life. *shrugs* Must be something to do with this "no personality" thing everybody tells me about.

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SIMONWHO

Monday, July 24, 2006 9:16 PM

One of the things that keeps my interest in the verse is that the demographic doesn't match the standard stereotype - witness the high percentage of female fans at the Serenity conventions over here.

Then again, that Triumph the Insult Dog bit at the queue for Episode 2 (the 2 minute wait I had to see it was too long, let alone 6 weeks) was utterly hilarious.

Triumph (to a group of stereotypical nerds): Hey, are you guys trying to avoid spoilers? Well, I've got a spoiler for you; you will die alone.

Triumph (to a rare female in the crowd): You have your pick of hundreds of men who have no idea how to satisfy you.

Triumph (to a little girl dressed as a character): Which of your parents did this to you?

Ack, the whole thing is comedy gold. Enjoy:

RMMC

Monday, July 24, 2006 9:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
So being 40 and living in your parents basement is a bad thing?

Cause I would love to!

If my mother didn't make me more insane that River in 30minutes, I sure the heck would live there.

One gorram heck of a lot cheaper.

And for the record...40's single female geeky whose apartment is furnished in early American basement (eg: garage sale).

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RMMC

ODDSBODSKINS

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:45 PM

For the record, 21, male, notoriously vain, nerdish tendancies, left school moved out and started working, currently share a flat with a model, a publisher and a checkout boy, plus the models daughter, liberal attitudes to almost everything (except alan carr and justin lee collins, who should be keel-hauled) consider myself intelligent (although less then i used to) admit i'm indescribably lazy, unreconstructed male when it comes to housework, modern man when it comes to cooking and clothes, used to be athletic, currently anal-retentive about music, obsessive about films, always been an arsehole

i want a stereotype!

GRIZWALD

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:52 PM

Wolfpoet, would you please fix your siggy?

(Maria, who has no life and occupies herself fixing Firefly misquotes)

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