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I just heard the stupid comment of the week.

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Monday, July 24, 2006 3:10 PM

Emma well spoketh. Need some help with the paper?



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Monday, July 24, 2006 3:35 PM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
While it is noble that you are sticking up for a friend, IMHO everyone is guilty.

So that must mean you’re just sticking up for your friend then.
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Why is Citizen's source better than Auraptor's or vice versa?
It's not, that was my point. I said that whether the climate of Greenland was significantly milder, or as AU put it quite warm, was contended issue, he said that it WAS green.

However if you're comparing ice cores to speculation based on the name of the place you tell me which is more reliable?

Or maybe you mean the scientists (supported near exclusivly by big polluters) who don’t think global warming is happening? Simply if they DID think it was happening it would be very reliable evidence, but since they have a vested interest in proving otherwise them saying it isn't happening is as reliable.

Also there’s a further flaw in AUs logic and his understanding of the issue, namely that the planets temperature has changed in the past so global warming isn't happening, and/or not man influenced. The issue isn't "The planets temperature has never changed and now it is!" as AU likes to straw man it.



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Monday, July 24, 2006 4:13 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
The issue isn't "The planets temperature has never changed and now it is!" as AU likes to straw man it.



What does this mean? It's an interesting phrase!

I think a lot of the contraversy over global worming comes from a misunderstanding of scientific thinking. Biologists and Climateologists and others in the 'fuzzy' sciences don't like to make definitive statements.

To make an exaggerated analogy I would be uncomfortable in saying "The sky is blue". I could say that out of a given sample of peoiple surveyed a significant number claimed to perceive the sky, at a precise moment in time when no cloud cover was present, to fall within the visual spectrum previously defined as 'blue'. Without confirmation of the absorbtion patterns of the 'cone' photoreceptors of the eyes of each of the participents surveyed we cannot be certain that liguistic variation in the classification of colour has not introduced an element of uncertainty in the results.


This is a long way from saying that the sky isn't blue and a lack of a definate positive answer should not lead to the assumption of a negative.

The case for global warming is more complex as there is actually evidence supporting both sides of the arguement. Some of that evidence has indeed been funded by companies with a vested interest in disproving the theory. Some of it was conducted under very shakey scientific principles. Some of it is perfectly valid. The weight of scientific studies, however, does support a link between human activities and global climate change. Predictions of consequense have ranged from the slight to the disastrous.

The Precautionary Principle of the Kyoto Treaty (which the US has refused to ratify) states basically that, whilst agreement cannot be reached on the scale of impact of global warming, the potential ecological damage caused by taking no action after incorrectly assuming a best case scenario far outweighs the potential economic damage of acting on the worst case scenario if this does not turn out to be accurate.


Thankyou. I feel better for getting that rant off my chest. Getting back to work now.

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Monday, July 24, 2006 4:25 PM

I got a better idea.

Fine, dismiss it all you like.

THEN tell me where the hell this endless series of tremendously brutal storms and hurricanes is coming from, and scientifically (i.e. no theological BS) explain it.

And when they get worse next year and plow the american southwest under even more viciously, explain that one too.

-Frem

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Monday, July 24, 2006 4:29 PM

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Originally posted by EmmaRigby:

Without confirmation of the absorbtion patterns of the 'cone' photoreceptors of the eyes of each of the participents surveyed we cannot be certain that liguistic variation in the classification of colour has not introduced an element of uncertainty in the results.



*falls off his chair again*

OMG, that was priceless!
All this over-wording of what can be simplified into: my drink needs more ice.

Polar cap shaken, not stirred Chrisisall

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Monday, July 24, 2006 4:32 PM

Emma

I love it when you talk all like smart and all! now GET TO WORK!



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Monday, July 24, 2006 7:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EmmaRigby:
Without confirmation of the absorbtion patterns of the 'cone' photoreceptors of the eyes of each of the participents surveyed we cannot be certain that liguistic variation in the classification of colour has not introduced an element of uncertainty in the results.

Maybe how you perceieve the colour blue is the way I percieve the colour green. Maybe the machines didn't know what the colour blue looked like, which is why they made it look like everything, no, wait, wrong movie.



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Monday, July 24, 2006 7:11 PM

This double post is merely a construct of your own imagination.

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Monday, July 24, 2006 7:34 PM

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Emma

I love it when you talk all like smart and all! now GET TO WORK!



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Why thank you! I shall now go on to prove that white is black and black is white (for a given level of photon absorbtion) and get killed on the next zebra crossing.

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Monday, July 24, 2006 7:37 PM

Ahh, you see global warming EVERY MOURNING!!!

It's called a sunrise Chrisisall

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