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The Ugly Truth: Our President is an Imbecile

POSTED BY: rue
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Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
Ah. But it is so much LESS than that. Especially re Lebanon.

Bush - what about Kofi?


Yeah. As in "What did you think about Kofi Annan's suggestion for a cease-fire and then an international peacekeeping force, Tony?", since that was Annan's suggestion at the G8. Seems reasonable Bush would ask Blair's opinion, which Blair provides.
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Blair - you need to get the int'l presence

Taking the actual statement "...the thing that's really difficult is we can't stop this unless you get this international presence agreed" in context, it's pretty obvious that you is inclusive, you meaning everyone who needs to agree to the international presence. Seems like getting international presence would be a UN thing, not for the President to do.

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Bush - I think Condi's going pretty soon (I guess he needed to check w/ her before he said that - as she hasn't yet seen fit)

Did it ever occur to you that the visit of the Secretary of State to several, not necessarily friendly, Mid-East countries might require a little preparation, like getting agreement for the visit from the countries involved? Guess not. Note also Blair mentioning that he would be willing to prepare the ground for her trip, because "she's got to succeed, as it were, whereas I can just go out and talk." That might take some time too.
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Blair - that's all that matters
?
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Bush - "they" need to get Syria to get Hezbollah

Blair - (confused by the non-sequitor) Syria?


Cool. You can read Tony Blair's mind now. Other people might have thought he didn't hear what Bush was saying, but you got the real scoop.

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Bush - I felt like telling Kofi to make something happen

But even the President of the US doesn't order the Secretary General of the UN around. Hence the working on international presence and trying to get a Condi Rice visit, perhaps preceded by Tony Blair preparing the ground.

Still seems pretty reasonable to me. I think you must have borrowed SignyM's "Bush is evil" goggles and then added the "Bush is dumb" accessory lenses.

I await your next round of well-spun out-of-context not-quite-accurate semi-quotes.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by Guywhowantsafireflyofhisown:
I wish you wouldn't brand ppl because of one opinion or another, but I know that's beyond your capability


I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.



Ya might try living by your own words. You branded W for some selected ( cherry picked ) comments. You have your method, I have mine. But I am willing to ammend my comments above. To be fair, I should have said " Liberals " in general, and not made it so specific toward you. Alas, I can't ignore the irony as you braned me as well, based on " one opinion or another... ".

Funny

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
Unwrapped - so you think those quotes are the epitome of intelligence, discernment, savvy. Wow. You've got high standards.



It would help matters if you could read/ comprehend a simple, straight forward post. All I said was that Bush is every bit as intelligent as Kerry. And I even made a follow up remark that said being as smart as Kerry wasn't all that to brag about! Yet, you somehow understood my words to mean that Bush is " the epitome of intelligence, discrernment , savvy... ". Now, unless you see those words being applicable to John Kerry, I must admit, I'm stumpified. Bush and Kerry have been shown to , from college grades and their military Intelligence test scores, be both unremarkable in the area of displaying a high I.Q.

Neither Kerry or Bush are members of MENSA, are they ? I certainly never implied that to be the case. Did you ?

"That ain't hatin', that's just factin'! " Chris Dimino 790TheZone



People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:34 PM

Hey Righteous9,

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Originally posted by Righteous9:
What is the President to you, Bigdamnnobody?



For lack of a better term, He is the leader of the 'free' world.

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How would you characterize him?



Happy. Seriously, the guy's always got a smile on his face. He really must enjoy his job, which could be considered a good trait.

I am not blind to the Presidents foibles, but he is the President. And he has been the President for one and a half terms. Unless you can impeach him for saying and doing silly things, he is going to continue to be the President for awhile longer.

What should the administration do? Should he be shielded from the public and only let out to make pre-written statements? Do you make up phony excuses and send other's in his place to conferences?

Besides, I enjoy lively discussions in RWED. What better way to get one going than to take a position opposite to the threads author.
Plus I knew there was something fishy with the original source.





De-lurking to stir stuff up.

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Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
You know what I wonder - if he'd pass sobriety and drug tests. Bush may not have too much upstairs but he can follow a script. So why would he do/say that stuff unless he was too happy, happy, HAPPY, WHHHEEEEeeee ... to care?



C'mon now, you can NOT be serious. Pass a drug test ? Which President was it that NEVER released ANY of his Medical test results, never revealed findings from his annual check ups, never made public ANY of his medical history ??


President William Jefferson Blythe Clinton - That's who.


"That ain't hatin', that's just factin' " -Chris Dimino 790TheZone

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:21 PM

Stupid double post!

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Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Besides, I enjoy lively discussions in RWED. What better way to get one going than to take a position opposite to the threads author.
Plus I knew there was something fishy with the original source.



I enjoy the RWED forum as well. I like to watch the threads here degenerate into name calling and my side's better than yours POVs. I usually stay out of them because I'm frankly too young to give a damn just yet. As for the main point of the thread, in my experience every president this country has ever had, has had his good qualities and his bad qualities, I can't judge Bush too harshly, after all, is it his fault every time he speaks the T.V. makes him look like a brainless goofball with a Yale education? (Maybe it is, Maybe it isn't.) Both extremes, Democrat/Republican, Liberal/Conservative, make me a little edge-y. So, I'm content on a middle ground.

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Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:26 PM

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President William Jefferson Blythe Clinton - That's who.
Well damn that makes it alright then. Other guys were taking drugs, your honour, so you see you have to let me off.

I was under the impression Clinton wasn't the president anymore, since he's a viable issue when discussing the current president I must of been wrong.

I really thought Bush was the President, or was it Cheney, oh well.
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To be fair, I should have said " Liberals " in general, and not made it so specific toward you. Alas, I can't ignore the irony as you braned me as well, based on " one opinion or another... ".
Except Guy was making a (quite well founded) observation based on your behaviour, you were doing your typical knee jerk “must insult and attempt to silence all who don’t think in the way AU approves of” thing.

But given your continued inability to see even the most obvious facts of the world around you and yourself I’ll understand if you, as usual, just don’t get it.

BTW the whole as usual “all Liberals blah blah blah” thing, nice way to prove the hypocrite charge .

Oh and darlin’, cherry picked or no, they’re still things he said, know what I’m saying…

Talk like an idiot, look like an idiot, act like an idiot, well I guess you must be:
A SHRUBURY!



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RUE
Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:32 PM

Oh Slick,

tsk, tsk, tsk ...

"What did you think about Kofi Annan's suggestion for a cease-fire and then an international peacekeeping force, Tony?"
Where in the conversation is that? Oh, that's right.
You would be making that up.

"(Blair - to Bush)... the thing that's really difficult is WE can't stop this unless YOU get this international presence agreed"
In context, it's pretty obvious that WE is inclusive, YOU means the US.

"(Bush) ... I think Condi's going pretty soon." In context, Blair was saying (as diplomatically as possible) "that he would be willing to prepare the ground for her trip, because 'she's got to succeed, as it were, whereas I can just go out and talk.'" But Blair needed to know if Condi was going to go before he got on the stage as the opening act, so to speak, and found there was going to be no main show. Bush's response? A definitive "I think she's going to go soon.."

"(Blair - confused by the non-sequitor) Syria?"
"Other people might have thought he didn't hear what Bush was saying, but you got the real scoop." Really? What other people? Or would you just be making that up, too.

"(Bush) ... I felt like telling Kofi to make something happen"
Hence BLAIR working on international presence and trying to get a Condi Rice visit.

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Friday, July 21, 2006 2:17 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
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President William Jefferson Blythe Clinton - That's who.
Well damn that makes it alright then. Other guys were taking drugs, your honour, so you see you have to let me off.

I was under the impression Clinton wasn't the president anymore, since he's a viable issue when discussing the current president I must of been wrong.

I really thought Bush was the President, or was it Cheney, oh well.
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To be fair, I should have said " Liberals " in general, and not made it so specific toward you. Alas, I can't ignore the irony as you braned me as well, based on " one opinion or another... ".
Except Guy was making a (quite well founded) observation based on your behaviour, you were doing your typical knee jerk “must insult and attempt to silence all who don’t think in the way AU approves of” thing.

But given your continued inability to see even the most obvious facts of the world around you and yourself I’ll understand if you, as usual, just don’t get it.

BTW the whole as usual “all Liberals blah blah blah” thing, nice way to prove the hypocrite charge .

Oh and darlin’, cherry picked or no, they’re still things he said, know what I’m saying…

Talk like an idiot, look like an idiot, act like an idiot, well I guess you must be:
A SHRUBURY!



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.



citizen - If only you knew what the hell you were talking about. The point was brought up that Bush should take a drug test. Fact is, he has had annual check ups with results made public. To the contrary, the ONLY President to do no such thing and to keep ALL records of his medical history private is the afore mentioned Mr.Clinton. THAT'S why it's relevent.

Ok, lets refresh.
Clinton = never released any medical records concerning his health.
Bush = has at least made public his annual check ups, and hid nothing.

You talk about ignoring facts, yet your entire positon is based purely on OPINION. Fact is, in objective methods of determining intellect between Bush and Kerry, we DO have 2 pieces of evidence. Case closed.

And one last thing, 'cherry picked' amounts to taking things out of context. Sure, they were said ( when have I ever denied that ? Oh, never..that's when ) but if you had someone eaves drop on your conversations and only used parts of, and not the whole disucsison , you too would be seen as an imbecile.

Ok, so using you isn't the best example I could have come up with, but you get the picture. One would hope, at least.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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