Aiming for Armageddon

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RUE

Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:42 AM

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So clearly Israel is facing all those Phantom WMD... and they are the especially dangerous kind of WMD because nobody can see them!

HA HA HA HA HA HA .....

RUE

Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:18 AM

So how does this play out? Starting scenario:

The US 'supports' Israel in pounding the shit out of Lebanon - yeah! that'll teach Hezbollah.

If Syria and Iran even look like they're weighing in to support Hezbollah, Israel could get the go ahead to strike. The US gets the strike it wants on Syria/Iran even though over-extended in Iraq. That leaves the US/ Israel clearly in opposition to much of the Middle East. However, I expect neither Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Kuwait or Egypt will officially weigh in with anything. What can be expected is 'the US is the devil' editorials.

As this plays out, or, if the conflict remains localized, Israel will end up in the same position as the US in Iraq. It will find that it can win militarily, but not ultimately.

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:57 PM

The whole thing scares me, because unlike the good doctor (from deleted scene in the 2hr premiere) I *DO* know History, and lots of it.

Every one of these go-rounds makes me cringe and hope like bloody hell the past does not repeat itself.

Don't know what I am speaking of ?

Google this word.
Saladin.

Having seen where mercy and tolerance has gotten them, if another man of such caliber comes to power over there - we can expect none of it.

THAT is what plagues my thoughts every time I hear of yet another of these go-rounds in the middle east....

-Frem

TRISTAN

Thursday, July 20, 2006 3:00 PM

Yes, another Saladin over there would not be a good thing. We have no Richard to counter with.

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SIGNYM

Thursday, July 20, 2006 4:31 PM

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One or more Iranians witnessed North Korea's recent missile tests, deepening U.S. concerns about growing ties between two countries with troubling nuclear capabilities, a top U.S. official said Thursday.

Asked at a U.S. Senate hearing about reports that Iranians witnessed the July 4 tests, Assistant Secretary of State Chris Hill, the chief U.S. negotiator with Pyongyang, replied: "Yes, that is my understanding" and it is "absolutely correct" that the relationship is worrisome.

Whether this is true or not the fact that it is in the papers tells me that the puppet-masters are preparing the USA populaiton for action against Iran. (If the USA was going to handle this in the background the article would never appear. As I've pointed out many times before, virtually all of our "news" is generated by government releases of one sort or another in order to have a desired effect. Pay attention to the content and tempo. Notice that certain news items can conveniently disappear. Turning the USA public on and off is almost as easy as flipping a switch.) So if you start seeing anti-Iranian articles multiple times a day....

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KANEMAN

Friday, July 21, 2006 3:50 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
Hi Gino,

My starting position on the Israel/ Palestine question:

Take US military aid out of Israel since they can't be trusted with it. Make Israel comply with the UN's border mandates. Promise swift and terrible retribution to any surrounding state that attacks Israel.

What do you think?

Who would carry this out? Not the UN. Fist many members could care less who attacks Israel. Secondly, they have proven its threats are weightless. The only way this will end is when the US stops holding Israel back militarily. Last time I checked Palestinians are the ones who keep breaking cease fires. Let Israel defend its sovereignty as we would...Be over before you knew it.

RUE

Friday, July 21, 2006 4:24 AM

Intervention in the ME - "Who would carry this out? Not the UN."

I dunno. Who was so hot to enforce UN mandates on Iraq? Maybe they could do it.

GINOBIFFARONI

Friday, July 21, 2006 5:27 AM

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Originally posted by kaneman:
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Originally posted by rue:
Hi Gino,

My starting position on the Israel/ Palestine question:

Take US military aid out of Israel since they can't be trusted with it. Make Israel comply with the UN's border mandates. Promise swift and terrible retribution to any surrounding state that attacks Israel.

What do you think?

Who would carry this out? Not the UN. Fist many members could care less who attacks Israel. Secondly, they have proven its threats are weightless. The only way this will end is when the US stops holding Israel back militarily. Last time I checked Palestinians are the ones who keep breaking cease fires. Let Israel defend its sovereignty as we would...Be over before you knew it.

Alright.... and the US stays out no matter what happens then ?

Back in the seventys the Israelis lost 180% of their airforce, it was only US airplanes and resupply which kept the arab forces from having air supriorty.... You want Israel gone wild... OK, just stay out when all the neighbors who they have pissed off for decades move to finish them.

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While everyone's lost, the battle is won
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KANEMAN

Saturday, July 22, 2006 5:38 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Bush Junior is making serious attempts to bring peace to the Mideast. Yeah.
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U.S. official: Israel needs time to 'defang' Hezbollah

Secretary of State Rice won't travel to Mideast before next week
By Elise Labott

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will not go on a peace mission to the Mideast before next week, giving Israel time to "defang" Hezbollah, a senior administration official said Wednesday.
At the risk of sounding both angry and cynical (which of course I'm not) it seems to me that if Lebanon or Hizbollah had a clutch of nukes we'd be falling all over ourselves to make nice.

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Don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining.

My guess is we would be dust...as would the rest of the world.

GINOBIFFARONI

Friday, July 28, 2006 3:23 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Bush Junior is making serious attempts to bring peace to the Mideast. Yeah.
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U.S. official: Israel needs time to 'defang' Hezbollah

Secretary of State Rice won't travel to Mideast before next week
By Elise Labott

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will not go on a peace mission to the Mideast before next week, giving Israel time to "defang" Hezbollah, a senior administration official said Wednesday.
At the risk of sounding both angry and cynical (which of course I'm not) it seems to me that if Lebanon or Hizbollah had a clutch of nukes we'd be falling all over ourselves to make nice.

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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/639E4E2E-A92C-4625-93E5-6B8F544
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" The UN security council has passed a statement expressing shock at Israel's attack on a UN observer post in Lebanon on Tuesday which killed four peacekeepers, but made no condemnation of the action.

The United States had refused to allow any criticism of Israel in the statement. "

" Wang Guangya, China's ambassador to the UN, said the document was the "minimum" that could be expected from the security council.

Wang said: "Any killing of innocent life has to be condemned."

Wang was asked how the negotiations over the statement would influence talks on a resolution regarding Iran's nuclear programme.

Wang said nearly every delegation in the council was frustrated over the US position.

Wang said: "Definitely this frustration will have its negative impact."

Without mentioning the US by name, he said reluctance by one government "definitely will affect smooth cooperation on other issues. "

Hmmmm By forcing the security council not to collectively say anything bad against Israel the US will now face opposition and non-cooperation on other issues... being I fiqure Iran and North Korea.

Time to lose that damn veto and the council can decide a course on a majority vote

Maybe China will simply give Hezbollah a dozen tac-nukes and as SignyM suggests Condi can piss off...

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Women and children and cowards attack

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