Aiming for Armageddon
POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Sunday, August 6, 2006 22:42
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Quote:You seem certain no nukes will get loose...
Originally posted by Geezer:
I'm having too much fun watching the conspiracy theories get more and more bizarre.
Chrisisall
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Quote:You seem certain no nukes will get loose...
Originally posted by Geezer:
I'm having too much fun watching the conspiracy theories get more and more bizarre.
Chrisisall
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Slick,
So you find the situation funny. I always knew you were a creep.
And no, no conspiracy theory there. Just an outline how 'effed up Bush's foreign policy is. N Korea is going ballistic, Iran is unstoppably marching down its own path, Israel is sending troops into Gaza and bombing Lebanon.
And the US? No allies, no influence, no muscle - thanks to Herr Bush.
Nope, no conspiracy theory there. Just anger at Bush and his lackies.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Besides, they don't have to INVADE Iran. A nice bombing campaign will do.
And then Pakistan lets loose with a nuke... then Israel... then India...
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Don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining.
Do you really think Iran will allow itself to sit and be bombed without response ?
Picture 300,000 trained troops crossing into Iraq to support the full on Shia uprising that bombing campaign would start
The Gulf closing, and what will the gulf states do... side with the aggressor, or their neighbor
Perhaps moves into Afganistan, as well as the former Soviet republics who traded cash for US forward basing... when faced with a uprising of their own will they change sides ?
Maybe Iran will find other creative ways to strike back... and only the US will call it " terrorism "
" Over and in, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "
The Killers
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/killers/allthesethingsthativedone.html
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Originally posted by rue:
Nothing to say about your fearless leader? You know, the one with the brilliant foreign policy of resolving conflicts, stabilizing the globe, using US influence for world peace and prosperity.
The Middle East has been heading in this direction since 1994. The real violence started in 1998 and has been escalating since then. The Palastinians and Isreal had some real promise for lasting peace in 2003 which involved many concessions on Isreal's part.
But in 2006 the terrorists crossed into Isreal and kidnapped an innocent soldier. Apparently this was the straw. Had they shot him, or blown him up at a border crossing or Tel Aviv cafe, then he'd be just another body. But they didn't, there was and remains evidence that he is alive. Its strange how that simple fact changes the dynamic. Dozens could die in roadside bombs, but the life of one Jew is not worth fighting for. And then there is Lebanon which allowed the terrorists to cross the Isreali border and kidnap two more for delivery to the ovens they have waiting in Iran.
Peace requires both sides to make it work. Isreal was committed, the terrorists apparantly were not. And if Lebanon, Syria, Iran, and Palestine cannot reign in the terrorists, then perhaps its time for another war. At least with Iran isolated and Iraq out of the picture Isreal will not be facing the odds they's faced every other time they've been forced to kick the collective asses of the Islamafascists surrounding them.
I saw the question earlier, what is the liberal solution to this problem? I understand it involves making Isreal stop, but how can you guarrantee no more rockets and bombs falling on Isreal's cities?
Or if that is not important to you answer these: Does Isreal have a right to defend itself? How many Jews/day would you consider a reasonable price for peace?
If I was in charge of Isreal I'd have lost control back in the '80s when they blew up that school bus full of little Jewish kids noting for the record that deliberate attacks on civilians, which is the terrorist playbook, is different the collateral damage from properly planned and executed military strikes against political and military targets, which is how Isreal...and the US for that matter, does business.
H
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I call BS.
The kidnapping was in direct retaliation for the Izzie's arbitrarily shelling an innocent beach party.
And as for blowing up schoolkids, I've yet to see a palestinian attack chopper strafe a crowded street as an elementary school let out just because they THOUGHT an Izzie's car was there.
To me that's the exact same thing as the Pally's blowing up a schoolbus.
Both sides shell each other on a *regular* basis, but isn't it strange that it's "ok" for the Izzie's to shell the Pally's, but not vice versa?
It's a damned ugly business over there, no one is innocent (and don't hand me that the Izzie's are, since they've been on a bloody conquest using weapons and material WE give them, since 1950) and any attempt to meddle is like sticking your hand in a meat grinder, no matter how well intended.
We shoulda stayed out of that mess in the first place, and we should stay the hell out of it now, if we spent 1/10th of that effort on properly securing our borders and real security, we'd be better off - and the best defense against terrorism is not making enemies of the whole damned planet.
Pull out, take care of US, and let matters take the course they're gonna take, cause short of nuking them, it's gonna happen no matter what we do, so why waste american lives and resources on something we can't change ?
Our founding fathers warned us quite severely about foreign entanglements, and we ignored that wise advice, and are reaping the bitter harvest of a crop we planted - here's a novel thought... let's quit planting them, ehe ?
-Frem
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Originally posted by rue:
Slick,
So you find the situation funny.
Not a bit. I do, however, find your response to it funny, in a sick sort of way. You don't express any concern for the Palestinians and Lebanese getting killed, but absolutely revel in having something else you can try to blame Bush for. One might almost think you WANT a nuclear war in the Middle-East, just so you can run around screaming, "It's all Bush's fault!!"
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Slick,
I looked, looked, looked, looked - could not find ANY indication in any of your posts that you had any concerns whatsoever. Not for potential ME war, not for potential nuclear escalation, and certainly not for casualites. YOUR response? Nothing about the situation. Just - it's funny watching the posts. Cold hearted, twisted, sick, creepy. That's you.
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Originally posted by rue:
Slick,
I looked, looked, looked, looked - could not find ANY indication in any of your posts that you had any concerns whatsoever. Not for potential ME war, not for potential nuclear escalation, and certainly not for casualites. YOUR response? Nothing about the situation. Just - it's funny watching the posts. Cold hearted, twisted, sick, creepy. That's you.
Well, if the thread hadn't started off with this:
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:It's about this time that I wished Bush was just a greedy businessman and not an Armageddonist.
BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- Israel's warplanes bombed Beirut's international airport and its navy blockaded Lebanon's ports in a sharp escalation of a military campaign Thursday
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Originally posted by rue:
About a year ago I said the next pre-selected target after Iraq would be either Iran or Syria. Maybe it will be Iran AND Syria.
I might have said something, but I could tell you don't give a damn about anything but the Bush-bashing, and decided to sit it out and watch the show.
If you want to talk about the USA's 50 years of often overzealous support of Israel, or Israel's often trigger-happy response to any provocation, that's fine. I'll be interested in your opinion. If you want to just have another Bush hate-in, as seems the case, you can do that fine all by yourself.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:It's about this time that I wished Bush was just a greedy businessman and not an Armageddonist.
BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- Israel's warplanes bombed Beirut's international airport and its navy blockaded Lebanon's ports in a sharp escalation of a military campaign Thursday
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Don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining.
This has been going on a lot longer than bush...many a prez has had to deal with this. It will continue long after bush. What should be done? America should step back and let Isreal pummel these countries...sorry...just one man's opinion.
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