Act of War
POSTED BY: Hero
UPDATED: Friday, May 9, 2025 18:56
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Quote:So how did that horrible Jimmy Carter (pansy-assed Democratic heritage) manage to get the N Koreans to shutter their nuclear facilites and put them under 24 hour surveillance?
Try finding anything of substance which has successfully been negotiated with North Korea.
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"I vote we get together a battalion of sabre-rattling chairborne rangers led by Hero and Auraptor and drop them in North Korea ..."
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha ha ha ha ha .... LMAOROTF
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Originally posted by rue:
Zero, Unwrapped et al - geez folks. I screened the threads from Jan 1 2006 on. The biggest trolls are YOU TWO. Get a life.
Life without Heroes:
You- "I hate Bush."
You #2- "I hate Bush too."
You #3- "Heah guys guess what? I hate Bush."
You- "You do, me too, what do you hate most about him?"
You #3- "Bush."
You- "Oh yes, I agree, your so smart."
You #2- "We know that we don't like Bush...why don't we like him...specifically?"
You #3- "Bush? I hate him thats why."
You- "Yeah, shut up troll, we hate Bush and if you don't say exactly what we say then your not allowed to speak. And quit asking for reaonable disucssion by people of diverse political, social, and economic backgrounds bringing a variety of ideas and ideals to be debated in an open forum...thats for trolls. Didn't you see the sign...'no ideas allowed."
H
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Then (assuming agreement is reached) we negotiate with the N Koreans, and sitting across the table from them (just like they want) we tell them:
You fire another long-range missile and we will starve you out. You LAND a long-range missile on anyone's territory - with a payload or not- and we will burn your nation from top to bottom and no one will defend you. OTOH- you play nice and allow instrusive inspections and we will let Kim be a movie producer in Hollywood.
Thats not much of a negotiation. We had a similar problem some years back and an otherwise unremarkable American President came up with the best solution. No negotiation, just a very public and direct message:
'It shall be the policy of this nation that any missile launched from North Korea against any target on land or water, whether test or not, shall be deemed a nuclear attack by North Korea against the United States and this nation will respond accordingly.'
You don't even need to spring for the fancy table and place settings...
H
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Oh I don't know Zero, what COULD the benefits of you two going away be ???
A real discussion of the weapons capability of N Korea. A real discussion of the capability of the US missile defense system. Intelligent postings about the 'geopolitical' realites of N Korea, China, Russia and the US. Intelligent discussion.
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Zero,
I have the same question to you - So how did that horrible Jimmy Carter (pansy-assed Democratic heritage) manage to get the N Koreans to shutter their nuclear facilites and put them under 24 hour surveillance?
No threats, no war ... how DID he do that ?
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Originally posted by rue:
So how did that horrible Jimmy Carter (pansy-assed Democratic heritage) manage to get the N Koreans to shutter their nuclear facilites and put them under 24 hour surveillance?
He said "please" and offered lots of cash, they agreed and he went home...very effective. They misunderstood the agreement though. They shut down their reactors and allowed the surveillance for 24 hours...then they were back at it.
Reagan would have been a better choice. His policy with the Commies was "trust then verify" meaning they get nothing unless we see everything...we, the United States, not some UN inspector moonlighting from his WWE referee job (those guys never see bad things going on) falling for tricks like "look over there, is that Alec Baldwin" and "pay no attention to the Weapons of Mass Destruction Behind the Curtain".
H
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Originally posted by rue:
Oh I don't know Zero, what COULD the benefits of you two going away be ???
A real discussion of the weapons capability of N Korea. A real discussion of the capability of the US missile defense system. Intelligent postings about the 'geopolitical' realites of N Korea, China, Russia and the US. Intelligent discussion.
Your contribution to the discussion is already a bit lacking in substance...case in point:
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"I vote we get together a battalion of sabre-rattling chairborne rangers led by Hero and Auraptor and drop them in North Korea ..."
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha ha ha ha ha .... LMAOROTF
Perhaps I am misunderstanding your style of "intellegent discussion". Could you clarify your "HA HA HA" remark in the context of our discussion or maybe show us the proof of your further and intriging "ha ha ha" contention as regards to global sociopolictal dynamics.
Or maybe your just a dumbass (again using that term in its legal context meaning that you are in fact so stupid that scientists are at this moment studying monkeys with both a greater grasp on the Korean crisis then you seem to have as well as the ability to smoke and throw crap).
H
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Quote:And the bonus of Hero staying is:
Originally posted by rue:
Oh I don't know Zero, what COULD the benefits of you two going away be ???
A real discussion of the weapons capability of N Korea. A real discussion of the capability of the US missile defense system. Intelligent postings about the 'geopolitical' realites of N Korea, China, Russia and the US. Intelligent discussion.
"I'm well hard me cause I'm a Conservative so I could kick your arse! Yeah I've never actually had a fight but I could pay someone to kick your arse you pansy arse worthless Liberal! Why the hell do they let you people live anyway, I've decided you all deserve to die, if I were in charge 'democracy' would be a lot better because I'd always get my own way."
Or
"It would be better if we used American inspectors only that way when they are bribed to ignore things I get my cut, and we can also make up any results we want to suit my desires for total world domination, erm I mean peace."
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Zero,
Please note the source of this info on what Carter did to gain N Korea's cooperation - the US embassay. Now, maybe you think no on else can look these things up. If you do, you're dumber than I thought. (Dumber used in the legal sense.)
http://www.usembassy.it/pdf/other/IB91141.pdf
In May 1994, North Korea refused to allow the IAEA to inspect the 8,000 fuel rods, which it had removed from the five megawatt reactor. In June 1994, North Korea’s President Kim Il-sung reactivated a longstanding invitation to former U.S. President Jimmy Carter to visit Pyongyang. Kim offered Carter a freeze of North Korea’s nuclear facilities and operations. Kim took this initiative after China reportedly informed him that it would not veto a first round of economic sanctions, which the Clinton Administration had proposed to members of the U.N. Security Council.
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