Liberals can't defend America
POSTED BY: Hero
UPDATED: Saturday, July 15, 2006 16:08
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Quote:You said you were a moderate, you say elsewhere you're a bit conservative, but you kind of sound fairly well full on Conservative.
you want the honest truth from a Moderate well here it is.
Please don't act like your an unbiased 'middle of the road' moderate when that's not the case. The Liberals haven't made a good case? Excuse me, the Conservatives have merely said we should fight everyone on all fronts, that negotiation is pansy-assed Liberalism and that Liberals are all weak scum bags. Perhaps that's a well reasoned argument for you, but to the rest of the species I feel confident that it is not.
You dismiss the Liberal arguments as not well made because they're Liberal arguments and you're a Conservative, because seriously saying "I'm a Conservative so I can kick your pansy ass" which is about all we've got out of Hero isn't even an argument, well made or otherwise. Your choosing to say it's the Liberals who can't put an argument together indicates to me you aren't a moderate, whether you like the idea of Conservative profiteering or not.
Agreeing or Disagreeing with what a minority of powerful Conservatives do doesn't make you any less Conservative, it means you have more morals than the Conservatives that choose to use Conservative values to rape and pillage, anymore than to be a Liberal you have to jump into bed with every other person who gives you the chance.
I.E. I don't think the fact that you don't like "Conservative Greed" means your moderate/conservative, you, by your own admission, hold conservative ideology, ergo you are a conservative, saying I’m a moderate and implying that means your reading of the fine Conservative arguments here and the poor Liberal ones is unbiased doesn't make it so.
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Quote:I have a strange theory that kind of builds on the idea of history repeating itself (so maybe it's not really a theory, or at least not really mine, anyway).
Originally posted by Exodus:
Agreed, I believe the USA was/is an Empire mainly because of its imperialistic intentions. I mean they have so many states and then they have colonies as well all over the world. The USA is definitely an empire in my books.
Basically I think that the British Empire was Rome, which makes the US the holy Roman Empire (Byzantium).
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Zero,
from The New England Journal of Medicine
"35 percent of women in the United States undergo an abortion before they are 45 years of age"
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/355/1/1?query=TOC
Quote:I'd say liberals are representing a substantial right for slightly over half the population of the US. Sounds like a democracy to me. So what do you have against democracy?
abortion on demand for all women and girls over the age of alive
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Quote:I'd suggest nothing, as long as people are making the "right" choices.
Originally posted by rue:
I'd say liberals are representing a substantial right for slightly over half the population of the US. Sounds like a democracy to me. So what do you have against democracy?
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Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
"35 percent of women in the United States undergo an abortion before they are 45 years of age"
I'd say liberals are representing a substantial right for slightly over half the population of the US. Sounds like a democracy to me. So what do you have against democracy?
Did you feel the same way about slavery, seperate but equal, or remaining loyal to the King? Sometimes people, even a large number of people are just plain wrong, even when they are legally correct.
The country is split on the issue of abortion, split right down the middle and more often on political and religeous lines rather then gender, so if your all for letting democracy rule on this subject how about we dump Roe v. Wade and let each state decide on its own...I wonder who would win that one and who'd be running to the courts demanding democracy be overturned?
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Citizen,
Absitively and posolutely !
Always on their straight an' narrow .... 
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Zero, your legal standatds are based on shifting ground. Originally, US law was based on English common law, which said that abortions were private matters until 'quickening'.
As to your 'polls'
http://www.pollingreport.com/abortion.htm
6/9-12/06
46% approve keeping legal
33% dissaprove
19% no difference
2% unsure
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Personally, I think abortions should be taken out of the medical arena. Abrotions can be easily induced by inserting laminaria into the cervix over the course of three days, as practiced by home health technicians in Japan. If it become illegal, it doesn't take a 'doctor' and coat hanger.
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I.E. I don't think the fact that you don't like "Conservative Greed" means your moderate/conservative, you, by your own admission, hold conservative ideology, ergo you are a conservative, saying I’m a moderate and implying that means your reading of the fine Conservative arguments here and the poor Liberal ones is unbiased doesn't make it so.
Oh yes and having Socialist political views is very conservative, eh? I just said that ideologically I am a conservative and politically I am a moderate. We were having a political discussion so I called myself a Moderate. Make sense now?
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Well in that case I've decided I'm a Moderate, so my views on Liberals and Conservatives are unbiased as well.
Make sense now?
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