Act of War
POSTED BY: Hero
UPDATED: Friday, May 9, 2025 18:56
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There are reports tonight that the Long Range missile that North Korea fired on July 4th was aimed at Hawaii. It failed 40 seconds into its flight when the 2nd stage failed to ignite. Japanese analysis of the trajectory shows it was on a path that would have carried it to Hawaii.
If these reports and analysis is confirmed, then North Korea has committed an act of war. Perhaps had this happened before 9/11, then it could be relegated to the realm of diplomatic resolution, but it didn't and it can't.
North Korea has fired a missile at an American State, that is not forgivable, especially what amounts to a surprise attack on Pearly Harbor on our nation's birthday.
The Korean War ended with an Armistice, no peace treaty was ever signed. They have broken the armistice, game on. I suggest we try the old "bombing begins in five minutes" doctrine.
There are 3 carriers in Hawaiian waters for those exercises, remember the sonar, perhaps they were the target. It is possible that the missile carried a weapon of mass destruction. If we recover the missile, and we might, or the Japs, and it had such a weapon, then we should respond in kind and by in kind I suggest a modest 10-1 ratio of nuclear warheads, low yield clean weapons to minumize fallout on our allies.
American doctrine has been and must remain mutual assurred destruction or in cases, like this, where its some pissant little bastard nation, just assurred destruction will do. Pity about the North Korean people, but we Americans believe that power flows ultimately from the people, by failing to remove their leader and establish a reasonable government, they are ultimately responsible for their leader's mad amibitions and reckless warmongering. I know some warmongers will take that statement to make a cheap shot about the President, but President Bush didn't use the 4th of July to fire a what may have been a nuclear missile at Hawaii...that was North Korea.
I speak from anger but ultimately reason will prevail. We will not, even if this is proven to be a full blown failed nuclear attack, destroy the North Korean people. But it is probably time to liberate them and unify them with their free brothers and sisters to the south.
H
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Several things I would like to say about going to war. We should not unleash a massive nuclear sterilization campaign on N. Korea. Such action would strip all credibility we have with the International Community. Second, ole Kim has the fabled million man army sitting on the other side of the DMZ, going into a slogging match with him would cost tens or hundreds of thousands of lives. The best option would be to enlist the aid of the Chinese in this as they are the best possible ally in this situation. If we went to war with Kim alone it would quickly turn into a meat grinder, but if both us and the PRC gang up on him he will be without allies, facing a two-front war against the two most powerful armies in the world. That would be the best course of action for us.
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I was wondering how long it would take before such info was made public. As I understand it, these sorts of missles , while able to carry payloads long distances ( 9000+ miles ) they do NOT have the ability to change trajectory.
Now, did the US knock the missle out of the sky, did it really fail, or was it killed in flight by the N.Koreans, just to see how we'd react?
Also, since no formal treaty has been signed, we're still technically at war w/ N.Korea. As was w/ the case w/ Iraq, an agreement to cease hostilities has existed between the 2 countries. Which is exactly why 35,000 US troops remain in S. Korea. A breech of the cease fire agreement cranks this war right back up again.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Since I know someone who works with the US missile defense system, I can say with near certainty the US did NOT shoot it down.
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Originally posted by rue:
Since I know someone who works with the US missile defense system, I can say with near certainty the US did NOT shoot it down.
I would think such a feat to be a bit beyond our ability, yet there are folks who work at Janes Defense Weekly who are certain we COULD have.
What ever helps ya sleep better at night, I suppose.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Wow. Has anyone on our side officially confirmed this? I read that the missile was aimed somewhere in the vicinity of Hawaii, not necessarily at Hawaii. Although that's not much of a distinction.
What in the hell is Kim Jong Il thinking? This has got to be one of the stupidest moves he could make.
Hopefully our response is not as stupid.
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"The U.S. denounced the launch, but did not consider it a threat to national security, and officials vowed a diplomatic rather than a military response."
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-NKorea-Missile.html?_r=1&hp&e
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Grow a nutsack Hero. People in the US have turned
into little freaking girls ever since 9/11 and I'm
sick of it. N. Korea a threat? pfft. A PITA sure,
but really man -stop your quivering. And while I'm
sure the thought of carpet bombing 100s of 1000s of
starving civilians don't trouble your conscience,
let me just say this: you're scared. You
stink of fear. "Fear is the mind-killer" was a
brilliant scrap of literature.
From reading the article, it sounds like our Gov.
is on top of the situation. Not that I have a lot
of faith in our Gov., but if N. Korea is ever
successful in torching any part of our territory
it's our Gov. you should want to be carpet bombing.
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St Doubt- couldn't have said it better. Hero and Auraptor (and AJ and Finn for that matter) need to grow a pair.
One of the things that the so-called conservatives have always campaigned for is a Wild West kind of justice- everyone packing a piece. Now we're approaching exactly that scenario on an international scale and it scares them sh*tless. And do you know what the N Koreans want? To sit down and talk with just the USA.
We really DO need a rolleyes emoticon!
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Don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining.
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I'm beginning to wonder if Team America:World Police didn't present a pretty accurate picture of Kim Jung Il.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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