Liberals can't defend America
POSTED BY: Hero
UPDATED: Saturday, July 15, 2006 16:08
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Originally posted by Hero:
I have realized that after watching North Korea screw itself over today, that foriegn policy is often dictated by non-Americans, as in sometimes actions are forced upon us by circumstance. We try to shape the circumstances but its not always successful. For example, I believe everyone would like to avoid war (or even a small military confrontation) with North Korea...but it may be out of our hands.
H
Not at all.
If the U.S has all the amazing technical equipment / weaponry it's perported to have (covert or otherwise) it should be able to just sit back and bat the silly little North Korean missiles out of the air as they cross the Pacific.
Or have the liberals sabotaged your anti-missile systems too.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Guess we better have a good look into the legal status of Antonin Scalia - he sounds like he'd be an illegal!
He was born in New Jersey and raised in Queens. You shouldn't judge an American by ethnicity. Its not like he hyphens his name...
Most California judges are liberal, most Canadians are liberal (or at least generally more so then Americans...its your way, I really don't have a problem with Canadian liberals...in Canada), most female judges are liberal, most women who hyphen their name are liberal (its a feminist thing) and by saying "most" I am deliberately implying "not all". So finally we come to the two items of definitve proof. Item one, the decision, siding with the radical enviromentalists by shutting down a portion of our national defenses, a very liberal decision (even if its correct, its still liberal). Item two, she was appointed by Clinton, all, not most, all Clinton appointees were liberals.
Case closed. Don't argue her credentials, she's a liberal, find me a liberal who can defend the country if you want to deny my initial premise.
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but when you try to damn all "liberals" by painting them with such a broad brush, it just gets under my skin.
Well, let me put it this way:
"It is not their patriotism -- it is their judgment that has been so sorely lacking. They claimed Carter's pacifism would lead to peace.
They were wrong.
They claimed Reagan's defense buildup would lead to war.
They were wrong.
And, no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.
Together, Kennedy/Kerry have opposed the very weapons system that won the Cold War and that is now winning the War on Terror.
Listing all the weapon systems that Senator Kerry tried his best to shut down sounds like an auctioneer selling off our national security but Americans need to know the facts."- from a former Democratic Senator.
And there is Joe Lieberman, a man who is not leaving the Democratic Party, but whom is being left by the Democratic Party's liberals.
H
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Originally posted by Hero:
The founding fathers were born British citizens, but died Americans.
H
They remain British citizens as far as I'm concerned, and Her Majesty is allways prepared to forgive the odd mistake.
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Quote:Is this what Casual was talking about?
(primarily the left since the left enjoys barking insults at the right as I have seen on television, contrary to what some may believe)
Especially the left, as in the left are the worst offenders. So by this reasoning since in the last two weeks two threads of the "liberals are all evil scumbags" variety have started up there should be at least four "Conservatives are all evil scumbags" threads.
Yet there are none, how do we account for this descrepancy, by saying these simple words:
You are wrong.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Hey Gino,
Zero said he 'prosecuted' a character defamation case. I realize you are not US, but to your knowledge, is this a criminal or civil procedure ?
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nice rant by the way, does it really work for you in the courtroom ?Quote:
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I heard something on the radio alluding that the Missile Defense System was shown to be a fraud (during this latest tiff with N Korea).
Anyone know what that was about?
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Originally posted by Chokai:
North Korean subs are so crappy that this technology is totally unecessary. If you wanna get your conservative gander up realize that this is a HUGE waste of your tax dollars. Or for that matter the US F22 program on which we have spent more than $100B when there is still no plane in the world that can even touch the F-15E with AAMRAM. Even Senior US military officers have questioned the need for these programs. They would rather pay thier soldiers a better wage and have money to buy them body armor for deployment to Iraq. Rather than more needless wiz-bang weapons systems.
To give you a level of the technological disparity between the US and Korea and even China for that matter. In 1997 Clinton parked a US Carrier Battle group a mere 200 miles off the Chinese and Korean coasts. The Chinese couldn't find it.
North Korean submarines are of the Whiskey/Romeo class and are a derivitive of a design originally developed by the germans during World War II.
The DPRK Navy does not have fuel to put to sea, much less train. They cannot manufacture or obtain spare parts for thier boats, they are rusting hulking pieces of crap (literally).
The Chinese have not sold any new subs of note to the Koreans as of this last months review of world wide submarine forces posted in the United States Naval Institutes proceedings journal (which is a great magazine btw, I recommend you subscribe).
*Thread hijack*
Chokai,
Very good points! I personally don't agree with you on the F-22, but I get what you're saying. After following China's development of the F-7 Chengdu, I gotta agree.
Could you tell me more about the US Naval Institutes journal? What type of features and articles does it offer? Is it global or US/Nato in its focus? Where is it available?
"I am your father, Luke. Give in to the Dark Side, you nob!" - Doug McKenzie
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Originally posted by rue:
Zero said he 'prosecuted' a character defamation case. I realize you are not US, but to your knowledge, is this a criminal or civil procedure ?
I don't believe I ever said such a thing. Can you cite this comment by me? You may have misunderstood it, or perhaps you are confusing me with this "Zero" character you have invented to justify your lack of substantive argument.
H
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Originally posted by rue:
I heard something on the radio alluding that the Missile Defense System was shown to be a fraud (during this latest tiff with N Korea).
Anyone know what that was about?
Actually it works much better then anyone ever imagined...or do you really believe that we didn't shoot that Korean firecracker right out of the sky...and they just don't want us, or anyone else to REALLY know.
Seriously they say its currently at 50%. Imagine where it would be if we hadn't waited till 2001 to start serious work on it. 1993-2000 were wasted years for national defense.
H
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