Liberals can't defend America
POSTED BY: Hero
UPDATED: Saturday, July 15, 2006 16:08
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Quote:Yeah but that's different...
Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
Since when did someone who is'nt British have the right to dictate the foriegn policy of The United Kingdom?
Yet G.W.B. does it continously.
Besides G.W.B. is her Britannic majesties bitch.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Quote:RJ, I love that!
Originally posted by RocketJock:
Bye the bye, before someone smears me as a liberal, I'm neither liberal nor conservative. I'm a member of the radical middle, e.g. Libertarian.
The Radical Middle!
We ain't out to kill no one, but if we have to, we do it ourselves!
To Hell with the pansy tree-huggers and the war-mongering liars!
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That she's Canadian boggles the mind, how does a Canadian become an American judge and how can someone who's not an American act as a check upon our national defense? Liberalism is the answer.
You're saying you can't get your head around the idea that there are people who are actually born in Canada, or you can't get your head around the idea that someone born in another country would actually want to move to the United States and become a US citizen? How does a Canadian become an American judge? At a guess, I'd say by becoming a US citizen and then working her ass off to make a better life for herself and her family. You claim that she's "not an American" because she was born somewhere else; I have a brother and sister who were born in Germany while my parents were stationed there with the US Army - do I have to tell them that they're no longer Americans?
You seem to have an exceptionally narrow view of who is and isn't an American. By your reckoning, we can pretty much throw out the entire American system of government, because none of the Founding Fathers were legitimately "American" citizens. They were all born British subjects.
Mike
A baby seal walks into a club...
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Cannot... resist... political... debate. Must... debate.
Well, I have been hoping to see a Conservative vs. Liberal debate on here and my prayers were finally answered. Now, rather than going on my usual political killing spree, I will take a moderate approach. As it seems, no one here likes the term Conservative and the term Liberal. Hell, neither do I but it is necessary when tackling politics. Now before I begin, I must show you my ultimate political organizer which consists of only two groups, ideology and politics. Allow me to show you how my organizer works.
Ideology basically means your values, morals and how you think. Ideologically, I am quite conservative-minded. I believe in God, I am not really tolerant at certain times and I am do not affiliate myself with Liberal things such as being an artist. Rather I enjoy typing away at the computer, watching movies, and believe it or not... doing homework (it passes the time).
Politcally, I am a Moderate in the grand scheme of things. I myself am a Capitalist/Socialist. I believe that Capatlism works well in first-world societies but in certain countries (mainly the US), crude capitalism is practiced preventing people from achieving high social status (which is what democracy is all about). Politically, I would be classified as a Moderate.
In the grand scheme of things, I am a Conservative/Moderate. Basically, I have Conservative views yet I can still understand what the left is saying (me listening to the left on the other hand... well that is a different story as to the right at times). Anyways, I do not like seeing political debates going sour like this one where insults start to get thrown. Some of us may be Conservatives, some may be Liberals. But in the end, we are all humans and we should all get along regardless of who says what. That being said, people's opinions should be respected from both the right and the left (primarily the left since the left enjoys barking insults at the right as I have seen on television, contrary to what some may believe). Anyways, that was my two cents. I do not want to get carried away in any political rants... that is what my blog is for. 
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Heh, That waters too deep on either end for me, you see, i'm an Anarchist, and thus not in any way desiring to swim in that polluted pool.
Dun much care how the rest of the world sees me, dun care one whit if your leaders and my leaders hate each other, long as they keep it outta my face, and offa my property.
Threaten my possessions, privacy, personal space or family - I hurt you, and if I cannot directly hurt you without six tons of goon squad assholes pulling a waco on me, then I hurt you financially or politically by sabotaging your support systems.
So... some buncha crazies in the desert with no air force, no navy, and no effective way to get TO me, to bother me ? what the hell do I care ?
Now... some buncha crazies 10 hours drive from here, that want my money, my privacy, AND threaten my personal space on certain issues of belief and the simple, earnest desire to be left the hell alone... that's a threat.
Of course, those same crazies are busy imploding and doing a far better job of their own self destruction than I could ever hope for, so best leave em to it, long as they stay out of my face.
Keep your political parties, it's just one more ball and chain in a country that has too many already.
-Frem
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Quote:
Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
Since when did someone who is'nt British have the right to dictate the foriegn policy of The United Kingdom?
Yet G.W.B. does it continously.
Hahahahahahaha...our British colonies...serves you right for not bowing to Hitler or the Commies when you had your chances. Now its our world and your just living in it. Silly as it sounds 'it is the destiny of the Americans and the British to rule the world'...
I have realized that after watching North Korea screw itself over today, that foriegn policy is often dictated by non-Americans, as in sometimes actions are forced upon us by circumstance. We try to shape the circumstances but its not always successful. For example, I believe everyone would like to avoid war (or even a small military confrontation) with North Korea...but it may be out of our hands.
H
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
You seem to have an exceptionally narrow view of who is and isn't an American. By your reckoning, we can pretty much throw out the entire American system of government, because none of the Founding Fathers were legitimately "American" citizens. They were all born British subjects.
The founding fathers were born British citizens, but died Americans. That was by virtue of both where they were born and what they accomplished. Even they were smart enough to know that there were some jobs in government that required a natural born citizen to perform. This judge, by virtue of her birth and regardless of every other qualification she has cannot be President of the United States.
But that is not relevant. What is relavant is that a foriegn born citizen has used her power to compromise American military readiness and defense. Its the same as a Russian born judge shutting down our missile deterrant in the 1970s or an Iranian born judge ending America's terrorist surveilance programs. The decisions, regardless of whether they are correct, are best kept out of the hands of those whose judgement is suspect. Liberals, people who are pacifists or who place higher values on the lives of a few fish then they do our citizens and servicemen, are most certainly suspect in making these decisions with regards to national security. Thats why a pacifist cannot be President because they can't fullfill the oath or perform the essential duties.
H
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I guess one possible answer here is for other countries to simply deny the right of passage to ALL US navy ships until it is confirmed that they are not employing types of sonar which are hazardous to marine life as well as fisheries.
I'm sure if nations like Britain, France, Spain, Canada, Japan, Korea, China, Indonesia, Panama, Italy and others decide that it is a hazard and not in both their enviormental or commercial interest for the US Navy to jeopardize their natural resources on either a whim or for the sake of paranoia... perhaps the US Navy will take the issue seriously
As Hero says, they are concerned with the " national security " or the US and little else...
The world is not the US, the oceans do not belong to the US
Maybe it is time for the Americans to go home
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While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "
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Roger that. Trotskyite Liberals like Boy Georgie Bush won't defend USA. Bush was demoted from pilot to mail clerk for disobeying a lawful order to take a piss test in Texas Air National Guard, then was sentenced to 6 months extra duty for desertion of Vietnam Wars. Bush orders wide open US borders, amnesty for 40-million criminal aliens, invites 200-million criminal aliens, sells ports and military factories to Commie China and "Arabs", sells nukes to Saddam and Iran and N Korea, kills 200,000 US troops with his daddy and "brother" Bill Clinton-Blythe, and bombs USA with Thermite on 9/11/2001 aka Operation Northwoods.
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
I'm sure if nations like Britain, France, Spain, Canada, Japan, Korea, China, Indonesia, Panama, Italy and others
With the exception of Panama, all those nations have that right. If they choose to give up the unbrella of American protection, then they have every right to do so. American foriegn policy and security programs have prevented a return of war to Europe and a resumption of world wide conflict for more the sixty years and our bases pump millions into local economies in Britain, Germany, Japan and many other nations. That money could easily be spent at home if they so choose. Naturally they will not interfere with the US ship pinging its sonar as loud as possible a mere 12.01 nautical miles from their precious shoreline in international waters...
Panama does not have they right to deny US passage of the Panama Canal under any conditions. It aint fair but thats the way of it. They can fly their flag over the canal, collect tolls and schedule shipping (subject to our needs), but the Canal belongs to the United States.
H
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