Hey! The system works yet again!

POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Thursday, July 6, 2006 13:49
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CITIZEN

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:02 PM

Please Geezer, get off the high horse, your as guilty of that as anyone.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

SHADOWFLY

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:05 PM

You should be the last one to talk about being on a high horse.

CITIZEN

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:06 PM

No you should be the last one to talk about being on a high horse.

Are you going to threaten to kill me again, or just make no sense as ussual?

I mean, all kinds of flattering, you having such a high opinion of me you post in threads just to attempt to insult me, but I don't think of you in that way, I'm sorry. Loves a funny thing I know, making you want to spite the object of your affection ShadowFly, but it really must stop.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

RUE

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:15 PM

Now see, there you go again Slick. When all I did was point out AND PROVE that you lied about me.

And now you're going around acting like the poor little victim. Just another dirty rhetorical trick to avoid actually discussing facts.

QED

Quote:
Rue: THIS is how it works? No free political debate? You have an interesting take on democracy.

Slick: Note the comments of Rue and SignyM prior to this post. This is a prime example of the "bitching, moaning, and personal insults" to which I was referring.

Rue: Slick, Where's the bitching, moaning and personal insult? I hope people really DO read my comments and not just what you say I said. They'd have a hard time finding what you claim. And that's why I call you Slick - it's for every dirty rhetorical trick in the book you chose to use.

Slick: QED

GEEZER

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
On surface, this is a very good point. But when something like Abu-Ghirab happens and is kept quiet- or when it explodes and how it gets spun is the stuff of Big Brother control, denial, rationalization.
No matter how great this country is, it will always be limited to the 'truth of the moment', which will conform to the needs of the owners (who must thank God for the short memory of the public), thus severly hampering potentially near-perfect freedom...

Abu Ghriab was spun by both sides, some people were tried and convicted, some lost political capital. Not a solution to please everyone by any means. Sometimes "close enough" has to suffice. Some of the fallout won't be known until the mid-term elections.

I gotta say, between SignyM's 85% of the population that don't give a shit, and your "owners" (whoever they are) being thankful for the public's short memory, I don't see much respect here for the American population. So, if the people aren't up to running the country, what would you prefer?

And...This "near-perfect freedom" of which you speak: do you think that your idea of what it is will agree with most folks'? What is your idea of near-perfect freedom, anyway?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

GEEZER

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Now see, there you go again Slick. When all I did was point out AND PROVE that you lied about me.

And now you're going around acting like the poor little victim. Just another dirty rhetorical trick to avoid actually discussing facts.

QED
Quote:
Rue: THIS is how it works? No free political debate? You have an interesting take on democracy.

Slick: Note the comments of Rue and SignyM prior to this post. This is a prime example of the "bitching, moaning, and personal insults" to which I was referring.

Rue: Slick, Where's the bitching, moaning and personal insult? I hope people really DO read my comments and not just what you say I said. They'd have a hard time finding what you claim. And that's why I call you Slick - it's for every dirty rhetorical trick in the book you chose to use.

Slick: QED

QED

Argue the issue, Rue. Quit playing word games. Do you think the system works or not?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

RUE

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:31 PM

For anyone coming late to the pissing contest, this is the exchange:

Slick: File suit. Take it up through the courts. Win or lose.

Rue: THIS is how it works? No free political debate? You have an interesting take on democracy.

Slick: This is a prime example of the "bitching, moaning, and personal insults" to which I was referring.

... Argue the issue, Rue. Quit playing word games. Do you think the system works or not?

RUE

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:32 PM

So anyways, I thought I had put in a plug there for free political debate.

GEEZER

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
So anyways, I thought I had put in a plug there for free political debate.

Cool.

So, I think that the American system of government works pretty well. How about you? Pretty well? Sort'a well? Not well at all? Any alternatives?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

CHRISISALL

Friday, June 30, 2006 7:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:

And...This "near-perfect freedom" of which you speak: do you think that your idea of what it is will agree with most folks'? What is your idea of near-perfect freedom, anyway?

My idea of it is what we would have, right here, right now, if MONEY didn't dictate who wins court cases, gets medical attention, or becomes President. Laws to even the playing field sos a man with good ideas wouldn't be grossly overshadowed by a man w/connections and money but not a neuron to his name would be a fine start. A pool of lawyers chosen at random to prosecute or defend..healthcare payed by our taxes (which would be somewhat higher-okay), influence peddeling punishable by DEATH...

Little things like that...The Constitution's fine as it is.

We're so close Chrisisall

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