How Do You handle Death?

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To me, death is just another part of life. I believe that whatever's after death will be another form of life, so I'm not really worried. I miss people that die, and I grieve, but it isn't like I'll never see them again. I believe we'll all be together in the end. Grieving, though important and essential, is also rather selfish, if you think about it. What I try to do in my life is be happy for the people that I do know, and for the people that I knew but aren't here anymore, and it feels good. I like the thought of being happy for the person that has passed, not because life is horrible, because I believe life is whatever you want it to be, but because they've gone on to another place; they've begun another part of life somewhere else, and we have to respect that.

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I guess that's why people say "I'm sorry about your loss" instead of "I'm sorry for the person that died.".
No matter what you believe, the deceased either just cease to exist and therefore have no worries, or they're in heaven or whatever, or being reborn.
Neither is really bad for the dead, is it?
It's the having to live without the person that sucks. Which is why I condemn suicide, because it's selfish and causes a lot of suffering to a lot of people, just because one person didn't want to "suffer" anymore. Suicide is a "Fuck you!" to everyone who cares about you. So don't any of you do that or I'ma have to kick your ass.



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I kinda like the thought of Death just being Death so that you learn to get over it, to show the world what kind of person you are, know what I mean? [ramble ramble ramble]

Like, you know, the whole idea that when you're hungry, but you have to go somewhere, do you stick as much food in your mouth as you can whilst flying out the door (i.e. live to the fullest and most dangerous), eat like you would normally, so you don't choke (i.e. living life cautiously but still enjoying what you have), or maybe you just don't eat at all, because you wouldn't be able to finish it anyway, so why start? (i.e. give up on yourself and those around you). There are probably many different other ways to eat as well... But I'm being general.

Why did I start talking about that?

...What month is it?

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Originally posted by Agatsu:
I guess that's why people say "I'm sorry about your loss" instead of "I'm sorry for the person that died.".
No matter what you believe, the deceased either just cease to exist and therefore have no worries, or they're in heaven or whatever, or being reborn.
Neither is really bad for the dead, is it?
It's the having to live without the person that sucks. Which is why I condemn suicide, because it's selfish and causes a lot of suffering to a lot of people, just because one person didn't want to "suffer" anymore. Suicide is a "Fuck you!" to everyone who cares about you. So don't any of you do that or I'ma have to kick your ass.



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I admire people who complete a successful suicide. Those mentioned people had what it took to go through and complete their self termination. I don't see it as an act of cowardness, nor do I see it as an act of weakness. I really don't see it as selfishness either.

I'm not saying that what they did was wrong. It was right for themselves. I doubt that any person wanting to kill themselves is saying "fuck you" to all the people out there. I don't think that they are thinking that when the moment comes. I BET you they are thinking about how they themselves have failed themselves. How they failed in being able to cope with the madness of this life. How they are ashamed that they could not adapt.

The hardest part about being alive is being able to live here on earth. I mean think about it. Every day that I live I think about dying. Everyday. There is nothing about this reality that brings pleaseure, or satisfaction to me. I'm done here. Whatever mission I was sent here for is done. I want to go home wherever that is.

When you think about it human life is boring and predictable. Sure there are the few out there that are born with a destiny that affects many people, but the rest of us are here to pay or bills, pay the rent, go to school, go to work, have children, put them the school, watch movies, buy food...etc. Predictable. What's the point?

And to the people who knows someone who has killed themselves...don't make a big, hairy, thing out of yourself talking about how they were "selfish" You didnt take them seriously in their pain. You never really listened to them...not ever. If you did, and if they felt heard, they wouldnt have killed themselves so quickly if they knew it would hurt you so much. You would have given them a reason to live...just by listening, but most humans are stupid so I say bring the suicides on.

A lot of people don't get that.

River

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Double post...sorry.

River

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Not all suicidal people are the same... You can't give them all the benefit of the doubt. I understand, for instance, people knowing they need to die (if they're on life support, or maybe if they're saving someone they love in the process of dying themselves, or like when

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Boone let himself die

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in Lost--I'm still sad about that!) but suicides can be selfish, for the simple fact that there is nothing in the world that can be done with only one intention. Or at least, I can't think of anything. Anything can be done with the intention of being selfish, so therefore, some people, at least, have killed themselves for their own benefits.

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Originally posted by Genetrix:
Not all suicidal people are the same... You can't give them all the benefit of the doubt. I understand, for instance, people knowing they need to die (if they're on life support, or maybe if they're saving someone they love in the process of dying themselves, or like when

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Boone let himself die

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in Lost--I'm still sad about that!) but suicides can be selfish, for the simple fact that there is nothing in the world that can be done with only one intention. Or at least, I can't think of anything. Anything can be done with the intention of being selfish, so therefore, some people, at least, have killed themselves for their own benefits.

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Bruce let himeself die
Tom Let Himself Die
Karma let herself die
Sandra let herself die
Susan let herself die
Rick let himself die
Jason let himself die
Mark let himself die
Mario let himself die
Jessica let herself die because she was stupid and I MEAN stupid

These are all the friends that I have lost through suicide. All of them, and they are the lucky ones except for Jessica. She was too weird to even be alive and the fact that she made it so far was just plain weird. The reason I go on is because I carry all of their stuff with me.

River

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:


I admire people who complete a successful suicide. Those mentioned people had what it took to go through and complete their self termination. I don't see it as an act of cowardness, nor do I see it as an act of weakness. I really don't see it as selfhisness either.

I'm not saying that what they did was wrong. It was right for themselves. I doubt that any person wanting to kill themselves is saying "fuck you" to all the people out there. I don't think that they are thinking that when the moment comes. I BET you they are thinking about how they failed themselves. How they failed in being able to cope with the madness of this life. How they are ashamed that they could not adapt.

The hardest part about being alive is being able to live here on earth. I mean think about it. Every day that I live I think about dying. Everyday. There is nothing about this reality that brings pleaseure, or satisfaction to me. I'm done here. Whatever mission I was sent here for is done. I want to go home wherever that is.

When you think about it human life is boring and predictable. Sure there are the few out there that are born with a destiny that affects many people, but the rest of us are here to pay or bills, pay the rent, go to school, go to work, have children, put them the school, watch movies, buy food...etc. Predictable. What's the point?

And to the people who knows someone who has killed themselves...don't make a big, hairy, thing out of yourself talking about how they were "selfish" You didnt take them seriously in their pain. You never really listrened to them...not ever. If you did, and if they felt heard, they wouldnt have killed themselves so quickly if they knew it would hurt you so much. You would have given them a reason to live...just by listening, but most humans are stupid so I say bring the suicides on.

River


A lot of people don't get that.

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Okay, here's a little story for you...
When I met one of my now best friends, it was shortly after her best friend was found by her parents, hanging from the ceiling. The girl who commited suicide had spent the night before with my friend, and there were NO INDICATIONS WHATSOEVER that she was going to kill herself, and my friend is a sensitive person, she should have picked up SOMETHING.
Or are you saying if you give people subtle hints and they don't figure out you're going to kill yourself, it's THOSE people's fault? Lemme tell you that my friend grieves and addresses reproaches to herself for not seeing it coming (and there really was no way) to this very day (it happened about 15 years ago), and her parents have led an empty, joy-less zombie-like life since then.
So here's where the selfishness comes in. If you're contemplating suicide you're so full of yourself that you fail to see the people who love you, and how your decision is going to affect the rest of their whole lifes.
As far as I see it, there's 2 reasons to want to die. One is overwhelming self-pity, and the other is "tiredness of life". The first one is a selfish reason for suicide, the second a stupid one.
I used to be quite depressed for a long time, and constantly stoned, but all it took was me falling in love to have a look at my life, go "WTF?!", quit smoking weed and get my life sorted out. Now I feel invincible, and full of energy, and my friends are going wild because they like my change so much. I don't even know if the girl fell in love with me as well yet, but even if not, the sensation of falling in love was like an adrenaline shot to the heart. Even if we don't get together, she showed me that there indeed are things worth living for, and most of all, PEOPLE worth living for.

Besides, EVERYONE affects EVERYONE. Life is interaction.


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Originally posted by Agatsu:

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:


I admire people who complete a successful suicide. Those mentioned people had what it took to go through and complete their self termination. I don't see it as an act of cowardness, nor do I see it as an act of weakness. I really don't see it as selfhisness either.

I'm not saying that what they did was wrong. It was right for themselves. I doubt that any person wanting to kill themselves is saying "fuck you" to all the people out there. I don't think that they are thinking that when the moment comes. I BET you they are thinking about how they failed themselves. How they failed in being able to cope with the madness of this life. How they are ashamed that they could not adapt.

The hardest part about being alive is being able to live here on earth. I mean think about it. Every day that I live I think about dying. Everyday. There is nothing about this reality that brings pleaseure, or satisfaction to me. I'm done here. Whatever mission I was sent here for is done. I want to go home wherever that is.

When you think about it human life is boring and predictable. Sure there are the few out there that are born with a destiny that affects many people, but the rest of us are here to pay or bills, pay the rent, go to school, go to work, have children, put them the school, watch movies, buy food...etc. Predictable. What's the point?

And to the people who knows someone who has killed themselves...don't make a big, hairy, thing out of yourself talking about how they were "selfish" You didnt take them seriously in their pain. You never really listrened to them...not ever. If you did, and if they felt heard, they wouldnt have killed themselves so quickly if they knew it would hurt you so much. You would have given them a reason to live...just by listening, but most humans are stupid so I say bring the suicides on.

River


A lot of people don't get that.

---

Okay, here's a little story for you...
When I met one of my now best friends, it was shortly after her best friend was found by her parents, hanging from the ceiling. The girl who commited suicide had spent the night before with my friend, and there were NO INDICATIONS WHATSOEVER that she was going to kill herself, and my friend is a sensitive person, she should have picked up SOMETHING.
Or are you saying if you give people subtle hints and they don't figure out you're going to kill yourself, it's THOSE people's fault? Lemme tell you that my friend grieves and addresses reproaches to herself for not seeing it coming (and there really was no way) to this very day (it happened about 15 years ago), and her parents have led an empty, joy-less zombie-like life since then.
So here's where the selfishness comes in. If you're contemplating suicide you're so full of yourself that you fail to see the people who love you, and how your decision is going to affect the rest of their whole lifes.
As far as I see it, there's 2 reasons to want to die. One is overwhelming self-pity, and the other is "tiredness of life". The first one is a selfish reason for suicide, the second a stupid one.
I used to be quite depressed for a long time, and constantly stoned, but all it took was me falling in love to have a look at my life, go "WTF?!", quit smoking weed and get my life sorted out. Now I feel invincible, and full of energy, and my friends are going wild because they like my change so much. I don't even know if the girl fell in love with me as well yet, but even if not, the sensation of falling in love was like an adrenaline shot to the heart. Even if we don't get together, she showed me that there indeed are things worth living for, and most of all, PEOPLE worth living for.

Besides, EVERYONE affects EVERYONE. Life is interaction.


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