Harsh Light Of Day, Buffy's best hand to hand?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, September 1, 2006 21:16
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Just watched it again last night, for only the second time, now. Forgot how kickin' that fight with Spike was! Definitly one of the best on Buffy. Anne had better all around action, as did the whole James Bond-like commando raid at the Initiative at season 4's end, but straight up hand to hand- it was almost as good (tho shorter) as Spike vs. Angel in Destiny.
Well...close, anyway..
Pugilistic Chrisisall
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Let me guess...this is a season episode I havent seen right? Why oh why do you want to rush us through all the seasons of Buffy? Do you eat this way too? Do you just gulp down your meals without tasting it? Hello Mr Man! Some of us want to chew and think about the episodes before we move on to the next one.
You need to be slapped.
River
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Quote:Now yer talkin'! That's in line with this threads' topic.
Originally posted by RiveR6213:
You need to be slapped.
You slap me and I reply with a double leg lock and forward takedown, what's your next move?
BTW, it's season 4, you saw it Chrisisall

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looks like a double-post is what follows the takedown.....
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Actually, I'm a bigger fan of the fights in Season 7 - though I don't really remember the one in Harsh Light of Day. My personal favorites are the opening fight of 7.01 Lessons, where Buffy is showing Dawn how to fight, 7.17 Lies My Parents Told Me between Spike and Robin Wood, and 7.20 Touched, the "lay a hand on me" dodge-fest between Caleb and Buffy.
Though I do like the season 4 big fight - seems like they got a big increase in budget from the previous year (oooh, such a bad big snake. Arg!)
Oh, and it's great to see such a Spike fan. Query: do you think Spike is Buffy's equal in a fight? There are a lot of arguments both ways, but I don't really know.
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"Light it." - Simon, "Safe"
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Quote:Both Spike AND Buffy are so subject to their moods...I think at the top of their game, Buffy would beat Spike because she's good at 'dropping away' and letting herself fight without the self to judge and edit movement- she's just very 'Bruce Lee' about it, whereas Spike, for all his decades of experience, relies on a 'Rocky' style 'never give up' attitude, that fails when bones get broken.
Originally posted by tamnumber1:
Oh, and it's great to see such a Spike fan. Query: do you think Spike is Buffy's equal in a fight? There are a lot of arguments both ways, but I don't really know.
Just mho.
Stunts n' such Chrisisall
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Hmmm, but the whole "both at the top of their game" seems rather impossible. At the top of his game, Spike can unsettle Buffy, thus making her not at the top of her game. So both of them peaking simultaneously would never happen. But then, I have to confess a sneaking desire for them to be equal. But then I remember that Angel says Buffy's stronger than he is, and Angel beats Spike every time but the last time (which means what? Not sure). Oh, well, I'll just Spuffy on, in my blissful ignorance, dreaming of Spike and Buffy fighting and shagging and never being friends...
...while Riley is off in his own little world, preferably one with four pink walls and a straightjacket. ;-) - just yanking the Riley/Buffy chain.
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"Light it." - Simon, "Safe"
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Quote:In their first fight, Spike actually beats Buffy and she is rescued by Joyce: "Get the hell away from my daughter." However, as time goes by the advantage shifts to Buffy. I attribute this to her learning the flaws in his fighting style and her own growth as a fighter (fighting monsters to the death on a practically nightly basis).
Originally posted by tamnumber1:
Query: do you think Spike is Buffy's equal in a fight? There are a lot of arguments both ways, but I don't really know.
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"Light it." - Simon, "Safe"
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NOTHING can ever beat the brawl in "Desinty", but "Harsh Light of Day" was certenly a good one. Every one knows Spike's thing is hand to hand. [Nothin' but fist and fangs]. Take for example "Fool for Love" and "Lover's Walk".
Gryffyd
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Quote:Two of my other all-time favourite eps...
Originally posted by Gryffyd:
Take for example "Fool for Love" and "Lover's Walk".
Angel's Destiny was king of the hill, fight-wise.
But HLOD had one of the best ever in Buffy IMO.
Fists and fondu forks Chrisisall
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