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Buffy has a Sister?

POSTED BY: RiveR6213
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 5, 2006 12:29
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Monday, June 12, 2006 3:41 PM

Chris: you know me so well!
LOL

River: take a break by all means,
but I say it again:
I think you'll identify w/and understand our angsty Buffy of S6 and our distancy Buffy of S7
they both have that 'hollow'-ness which others don't seem to understand or experience, but I think you will.

I should rewatch 'Dark Angel', which I liked, but I never loved as much as I do Joss' work.
I AM Whedon's Bitch, what can I say?

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Monday, June 12, 2006 6:32 PM

Plus next season has the Musical ("Once More With Feeling"). Possibly the single greatest hour of Buffy ever, and tied with Angel's "Smile Time" episode for best hour of the Buffyverse.

"I died, so many years ago. . ." --Spike

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

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Monday, June 12, 2006 6:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Plus next season has the Musical ("Once More With Feeling"). Possibly the single greatest hour of Buffy ever, and tied with Angel's "Smile Time" episode for best hour of the Buffyverse.


oh I disagree...
I might say that 'Hush' tied w/'Smile time'
but OMWF stands proud and tall as the greatest achievement of Joss' life...
the lyrics, music, story, everything was so perfectly done.
When you consider that every single song moves the plot forward.
That every aspect of the story relates to things that have happened before and will happen in the future.
And particularly when you consider that each song had to be tailor made to fit the voice and range of each of his actors....
it is an incredible thing.
In fact I think I should put it in my DVD player and watch it again right this minute! LOL

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Monday, June 12, 2006 9:27 PM

OMWF is undeniably his greatest Buffy achievement, but I still like

1) Chosen
2) Fool For Love
3) Anne
4) Amends
5) The Gift

better than that.
But not by much....

Chrisisall, Fool for Lists

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Monday, June 12, 2006 11:33 PM

What I'm going to do when I get home is watch Buffy again starting from Season 1. I might have missed something. I want to make sure I have things in the proper perspective. I want to watch Buffy grow into the cool person she ended up being in season 5. She starts off by being a kid who fights Vampires and Demons in the 1st season, and ends up becoming the super heroin of legends in the 5th season.

There's a big difference between the characters of Buffy from season 1 and season 5. Willow went from being this shy, timid, geeky person to this confident witch in a lesbian relationship. Xander went from being this geeky guy to an older, funny, geeky guy with courage. Giles went from being a corky librarian, to a strong, knowledgeable, father figure. I really like Giles BTW. I wish he had been my father. I would have learned a lot from him, and he would have been a great guider.

Tara reminded me of the many women I used to know in college. Her character I really didn’t like. She’s too timid. Joyce I liked a lot. I wish I had, had a mother just like her. She gave her daughter a lot of freedom, and she was loving and supportive. I would have been proud to call her Mom.

Spike. I didn’t like for a long time but later on I started to warm up to him, and even started to feel sorry for him. Every time Buffy showed up she hit him in the face and said something mean to him. She didn’t have to do that all the time, but she did. That one episode when he was trying to make a connection with Buffy, and she said that he was beneath her…I really felt sorry for him especially when he started to cry after she left. I also liked when he got pissed off and went and got his shotgun, went over to Buffy’s home with anger and vengeance in his heart, and when he got there, Buffy was sitting on her front porch crying to herself because of the news that her mother was sick and going to the hospital for a few days. He walks over, points the gun at her, and sees that she looks miserable. She asks him what does he want now in a way that suggested that she really didn’t care one way or another. His anger dissipated and he asks here what’s wrong and she says that she didn’t want to talk about it. Spike lowers the shotgun, sits next to her on the porch, pats her on the shoulder cautiously, and then sits there with her silently. This scene really touched me for some reason. Spike was capable of caring.

The whole Spike/Buffybot episode was funny…at least the part where Spike was mock fighting with the bot. “Make your move Slayer!” Spike says as he and the Buffybot maneuvered around each other. Spike’s character was really starting to grow, but I was put-off by how the Scooby gang treated him especially Xander. Xander’s behavior towards Spike really started to get on my nerves. It was clear that Spike was trying to make amendments through action helping them in their little adventures, but they wasn’t giving him a chance at all. Towards the end I really liked and respected Spike. He put up with torture, and didn’t tell Glory anything about the Key, and got his ass beat up on in the process. He did it because he really respected and loved the Slayer.

Buffy in season one seemed so young to be doing what she did. I’ve never met any teenagers in my time that could take on such responsibility, while maintaining a girly-girl outlook on life. In real life this would not be possible, but in the show, Buffy pulls it off well. We got to watch Buffy go from one adventure to another, and she grows each time. Buffy isn’t a hardcore hero. She has a heart and she can be hurt emotionally by people she knows, which makes her very different from other superheroes; she’s real, and very much human. But also she’s a girl-stuff girl. Fancy clothes, fancy shoes, the latest in hairstyles, and in tune with the latest scene, which makes her normal life a perfect secret identity to hide who she really is; A Slayer.

Towards the end of season 5, Buffy’s character moves from the vague area of Slayer to Hero. Buffy is a 1st cla

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 2:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:
"I died, so many years ago. . ." --Spike


""But you can make me feel like it isn't so..."

At one time, I actually had SMG singing "Going through the Motions" as my cell phone ringer. I was very very obsessed with that show.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:42 PM

The soundtrack isn't as good as the episode. "Going Through the Motions" just isn't as fun without the sound of a body hitting the ground.

"She's not even half the girl she-- Ow."
*thud*

As for Xander being an asshole to Spike. . . Well, Xander's always had problems with the men in Buffy's life. Remember his feud with Angel?

Xander's had a crush on Buffy since the beginning, and he's a little territorial. Possible he senses the sparkage between Spike and Buffy, and is letting that colour his understandable dislike of the unpredictable and untrustworthy psycho killer.

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RiveR6213:
What I'm going to do when I get home is watch Buffy again starting from Season 1. I might have missed something. I want to make sure I have things in the proper perspective. I want to watch Buffy grow into the cool person she ended up being in season 5.


*Arm on the upswing, fingers grasping the handle tightly. Aim is taken; visual acuity is relied upon. Downward motion begins, gravity is in use.
The heavy tool concusses on it's mark*

You must see 6 and 7.

I think I'm done hammering that in Chrisisall

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:53 PM

But River! No one is ever dead in a Joss Whedon epic. Besides, yes she died a heroic selfless death - but it was also not a "natural" death and therefore doesn't count.

As a Buffy fan from the beginning, I have to say that I thought the whole "Dawn the Key" was about the point that this show "jumped the shark". I hated this season and everything about it. As a matter of fact, I pretty much stopped watching because of everything that happens. With the exception of the Buffy/Spike thing, I could have missed it and not cared. IMHO Spike is WAY too good for Buffy. Towards the end of the serious I was kind of sick of her. (I didn't much like the way she treated Riley either.) I was happy that she was brought back and that the show got a bit more on track. I was able to get back into watching it again.


I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:00 PM

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
I was happy that she was brought back and that the show got a bit more on track. I was able to get back into watching it again.



Many yahrens ago peeps here said that season six was the depressing season; I feel that season five really is.
6 and 7 have nowhere to go but up.

Well, sideways for a bit, then up

Chrisisall, chosen to be a Joss' female dog

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