Do we still have hope?
POSTED BY: EmoPirate05
UPDATED: Saturday, January 3, 2004 10:16
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You know when I went to write this response you know what the random quote was at the top of this page?
"I poured my heart and soul into that show. I believed in it with every fibre of my being." - Joss Whedon on Firefly
What better way to sum it up? We have a choice. We can believe in all the people responsible for the creation of this show we love. Joss, Tim, Nathan, Gina, Adam, Jewel, Sean, Summer, Ron and the dozens if not hundreds of people laboring at the engines of creation. Or we can lay down arms and give it up. Let Serenity fly into the black for good.
That's our choice.
Gorram it! I sure as hell am not ready to lay down arms!
We don't have to fight. We just have to keep the flame alive. All we have to do is hold this ground and make sure Joss and company know we believe and let Universal know they have a product we want to shell out good money to see.
We have got to hold this ground at all costs! We lose this, we lose everything. You hold, hear me? YOU HOLD!
The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.
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There's one flaw with the "loan out the DVD" approach: It's invisible.
See, hopefully they love it so much, they will buy their own copies. And lend them out to their friends, their friends buy it, and so and so forth. There is a math problem, but I don't remember it, and it's a holiday-ish thing.
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"Freedom is the Freedom to say that 2+2 makes 4. If that is granted, all else follws"-Winston, 1984
Keep flyin', and remember, THEY can't take the sky from US!
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Very well said. I don't think I've read it quite that way before. Give us your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free and wear really nice jackets.
Yeah, jackets! But seriously . . .Quote:
Maybe someday we'll be able to say that it was best late, that the release and the new blood really revived something that had waned just from slogging through the muck for so long.
But disheartening, nonetheless. It's a very bittersweet feeling and reminds me of all the things I should have done. I should have watched "Out of Gas" instead of Trek Uncut (bring the tomatoes, I deserve them); I should have sent ten postcards a day instead of five; I should have been in the thick of things from the beginning instead of lurking for so long.
Life's too short for ifs and maybes though and good Browncoats have taught me that there's very little that the Firefly perspective can't help with. That's my hope. When I'm down or feel awful or something doesn't go right, I look at this poor, short-lived, magnificent show and remember its wisdom and try to use that.
So I should get over being disheartened and revel in all the new names and faces and levels of enthusiasm and remember that while the losing side ain't necessarily the wrong one, sometimes how you get there is the worthier part.
I tried to abbreviate your quote but found I couldn't because it was so well said. So it's all here again for anyone who missed it.
I will add this: it was such a short miserable life for Firefly, what with only four months on air, and not even straight through. So it took months for people to taste the show and then tell others until, dam-mit, here we are. "Maybe it's exactly where (we) should be."
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Every time I tried to tell someone to watch it, it wasn't on the next week when it was supposed to be, so the bootleg and now official DVDs are the way for me to get my friends in to it. I bought them for Christmas presents and I will buy them for birthday presents, spread out over the course of 2004. I will recruit new fans to our fold!
Keep flying and keep encouraging the 'new blood' to have hope. Revel in all the new names and faces and levels of enthusiasm.
"Is there any way I'm gonna get out of this with honor and dignity?"
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So had this big noisy new year's eve party in our apartment, the wife and I. And I'm talking, three or six drinks in, to a friend who has not embraced the Firefly, though he appreciates Buffy, some comics, and loads of SF stuff I can't even keep straight. And scads of DVDs. I told him, "I could loan you the DVD, but I won't. Go buy it. If you really don't like it, I'll tell you you're crazy, and buy it back from you."
That way, he gets Firefly at no risk, and I don't have to pay for it. Unless, bizarrely, he really does not like it. Then I do have to pay for it, but I then have an extra copy to give to yet someone else. And an opening to start auditions for a new friend.
"Bang."
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I have hope because of shows like B5 making a 5th year and Jeremiah and Dead zone getting seconds.
However, my hope is tempered because of shows like Andromeda, and Mutant X, and *gasp* the new Galactica getting airtime. What a heap of gosa!
Now take the cancellation of Odyssey and the amazing brainfart of butchering the end of Farscape as it did, and the hope is waning indeed.
TV scifi is mindless shoot-em ups with special effects galore and (wow, am I saying this?) too MUCH sex bs! The formulas are proven:
Rule 1) CGI + Spandex + Big Booms = Series Renewal
Rule 2) Plot or Character Depth or Realism = CANCEL
Feel free to throw a 'b' in place of the 'm' in the first rule above. That works too.
Hey, I do admire a fine women but come on! Andromeda had three hotties AND a plot in it's first year. Nowadays, the eye candy just isn't enough (and it's fine eye candy!)
Faith Manages. But Stupidity is the 500lb gorilla sitting down to tea. The average viewer and the average tv executive live and breath the above formulas. My poor hope....
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There is lots of hope the only reason we got DVD's is because people at websites like this made alot of noise. I seem to remember people here pushing it to the top of Kazza's most wanted but unavailable DVD list. In fact people were always getting it on any number of lists and Fox released one hell of a DVD package. Joss Wheadon has said that if there wasn't the fan response there has been he would have given up on Firefly. He hasn't given up in fact he has just announced at the L.A. comic book convention he has finished the script for the Firefly movie.
I for one think there is a damn good chance it's going to get made. After all Joss Wheadon is a powerful man in hollywood circles. Buffy,Angel, Toy Story, Tititan A.E. ect. And Joss has said if the movie is successful he'd love to bring it back to T.V.
And since the DVD's are selling well and Joss has got Universal to buy the rights to Firefly from Fox I see no reason to think Universal won't make a movie they did buy the thing after all. So in the interests of making long stories less long I see no reasons for gloom and doom and every reason for hope!!!
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There's always hope, just keep flying.
I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image.
--Stephen Hawking
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