The New Republician Guide to America
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Quote:If I understand my biology correctly (biologists are welcome to step in and correct me) the fertilized human egg becomes BOTH the placenta AND the embryo. But the development can go awry and only a placenta develops. So here we have some tissue that is "alive" and it has the human genome but it clearly is not human. In fact- I can say the same thing of my liver, which is alive and has a human genome but is certainly not a human being. So being alive and having human genes is an insufficient definition to describe
They have DNA that shows they are human (I think - unless 'Heart of Gold' has lied to me...), and they are alive, so they are in a state of 'being'. Hence 'human being'.
"human being".
I hope you realize that I'm not trying to be tricky. I'm trying to reach a definition.
http://info.med.yale.edu/obgyn/kliman/placenta/articles/EOR_Placenta/T
rophtoplacenta.html
www.med.unc.edu/embryo_images/unit-bdyfm/bdyfm_htms/bdyfm003.htm
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Originally posted by Sassalicious:
How is wanting to get married and have a recognized homosexual union in any way trying to have rights superior to others?
Because they are already free to marry. A man, homsexual or not, can marry a woman, homosexual or not. But straight or gay, they cannot marry the same sex. Thus there is no discrimination to correct. Marriage is between a man and a woman.
Now, as a lawyer, I support the idea of creating a mechanism, similar to marriage, by which couples can form a homosexual union. In fact I think such unions could benefit non-homosexuals such as elderly siblings, life-long friends, etc, by allowing them to more efficiently pool resources.
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Originally posted by Sassalicious:
The case can also be made that a fetus is merely a parasite, despite human qualities.
Thats true of my older brother too.
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Quote:Since the dispute revolves around the definition of marriage you're using the thing to be proved as proof. I forget the name of this fallacy. But perhaps you can enlighten us about the legal nature of marriage... what benefits and obligations accrue to being married, whether the expectation of exclusive sexual relations is a religious, customary or legal expectation etc. I know this varies state by state, but to start things off...
Marriage is between a man and a woman.
Obviously you can file your taxes as "married, filing joint" if you are married.
Social Security benefits come into play, since wives can draw from their husband's retirement (but not the other way around- seems like guys should fight this one).
Insurance (state law) benefits can extend to married partners. Some states recpgnize "domestic partners" as well.
Community property (state law) is also part of some marriage contracts.
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Why does marriage have to be between a man and a woman? I know that's what most, if not all, lawbooks say. However, there are many many laws that we commonly disregard because they are lame. Traditionally, marriage has been between a man and a woman, but traditional marriage was more about giving away the woman/female child to the highest bidder. There is still evidence of this in the ceremony.
And what the Bible says shouldn't have any bearing on what happen's in the courtroom.
Furthermore, you're acting as though homosexuality is a choice, when it's not. There have been studies done on mice that have generated homosexual mice. Without going into complexities, Gender Identity Disorder can result in a homosexual pairing from external views but heterosexual when internally viewed. Sexual reassignments for children with non-discernible genitals. What if you get it "wrong"? He's genetically male and has been raised female his whole life. If environment exerts a strong enough force, he might continue to believe he's female. Regardless of who he marries it's arguably a homosexual relationship. "As Nature Made Him: The Story of the Boy Who Was Raised as a Girl" is an interesting read about a boy who was sex-changed to a girl around 1 year of age. He experienced a lot of internal conflict growing up that only resolved itself when his parents confessed and he had a sex-change back to male.
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Quote:So does the skin on my arm.
Originally posted by KPO:
They have DNA that shows they are human (I think - unless 'Heart of Gold' has lied to me...), and they are alive, so they are in a state of 'being'. Hence 'human being'.
I burnt my arm in an accident involving me and some very hot cooking oil. I've got a pretty bad burn now and many, many cells died in this tragedy, they all had Human DNA, they were all alive until I mercilessly cut them down with my carelessness.
I guess that makes me guilty of multiple counts of manslaughter.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
"I had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalog: 'No good in a bed, but fine against a wall'." -- Eleanor Roosevelt.
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Zero: Marriage is between a man and a woman.
SignyM: Since the dispute revolves around the definition of marriage you're using the thing to be proved as proof.
SignyM,
Don't pay attention to Zero. He's just aping an intellect. It's pitiful. It's like watching a dog try to talk.
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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I'm still sticking with my definition of a human life as 'normal cortical brain activity'. It works for the end of human life, 'brain dead' = dead. Both logic and biology demand it be applied to the beginning as well as the end.
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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Originally posted by rue:
I'm still sticking with my definition of a human life as 'normal cortical brain activity'. It works for the end of human life, 'brain dead' = dead. Both logic and biology demand it be applied to the beginning as well as the end.
I second this.
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Originally posted by reaverman:
This is what many in the Right are uncomprehending on: Creationism isn't a theory! By definition, a scientific theory is a hypothesis that has been rigorously tested, and that there is a hell of a lot of evidence for. Creationism does not meet that standard because it is just a guess with ZERO evidence.
The problem is that Creationists don't care about science. They are willing to take their beliefs and modify then slightly to make them sound scientific (Intelligent Design my ass), but they are not willing to accept that their beliefs do not hold up to scientific study.
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THAT is why it doesn't belong in the classroom any more than the belief that Overlord Xenu dumped billions of frozen aliens into Earth's volcanoes, creating life (for those of you who dont know, that is Scientology)
Wait..you mean that isn't real????? What have I been wasting all my money on???? Hold on...I was told that anyone who wasn't at least O.T. 3 would die if they heard about that...oh god...you just killed everyone who read this thread.
Anybody who wants more info on the reality of Scientology should go to this website:
http://www.xenu.net/
it's amazing what the Scientologists believe.
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