Do we still have hope?
POSTED BY: EmoPirate05
UPDATED: Saturday, January 3, 2004 10:16
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So I've been telling whoever I can about firefly since I discovered it about a week ago (I really am a newbie here) but I went to sign the petition on savefirefly.com and I couldn't because in their words "the battle is over." Is it really? Is there no hope for the return of firefly the way it was? Are we even fighting for anything anymore? Wow, this is really upsetting...and I've only been a fan for a week. All of you that have stuck with it for this long are my heros and I love you. 
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"Ninjas are totally sweet. What with the blazing guitar solos and the totally chopping people's heads off." ~Jade Puget
"I love the sound of the pitter patter of little feet in big combat boots...SHUT UP!!" ~Capt. Mal
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don't give up hope. when one person whispers, no one hears. but when millions of people shout, everyone notices. keep buying the dvd sets, loaning dvd's to friends, relatives, etc. we only need one network to pick up this great show! the cast and crew are committed to firefly, and so are the fans! also, don't forget to write to networks and local affiliates about your interest in firefly.
a loyal browncoat!
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Feel dishearted? Quote for you: "Ten persons who speak make more noise than ten thusand who are silent."-Napoleon Bonaparte. What I'm trying to say is, there is hope, we just need a voice. Or get a voice. Whatever. Speak out! Well, I have to go to bed.
Keep flyin'!
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"Freedom is the Freedom to say that 2+2 makes 4. If that is granted, all else follws"-Winston, 1984
Keep flyin', and remember, THEY can't take the sky from US!
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ZOE They still have the advantage over us.
MAL Everyone always does. That's what makes us special.
RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.
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Don't give up hope Emopirate05; we sure aren't giving up!
Joss and the cast are dedicated to the show, and Joss just finished writing a script for a Firefly movie.
The best thing we can do at this point is spread the word on Firefly. Buy the DVDs, share the DVDs w/ friends and family to get them interested, talk to your local rental chains and retail locations to see if they are carrying the DVD set. If they aren't, ask them to carry it. Point people to the Firefly sites to learn more about the show and share their interest with us.
The more people that become aware of Firefly and become interested in it, the more voices we add to the call for Firefly to fly again.
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
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Thanks guys. This really is the best group of people on the Internet. I have to go, my cat's laying on the keyboard...not cool. Thanks for everything guys.
Lorna
PS...Happy New Year! Let's make it the year of firefly.
"Ninjas are totally sweet. What with the blazing guitar solos and the totally chopping people's heads off." ~Jade Puget
"I love the sound of the pitter patter of little feet in big combat boots...SHUT UP!!" ~Capt. Mal
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Okay, not trying to be mean in any way, but, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS?!
OF COURSE THERE'S HOPE!
Sorry, just had to let the crazy air out.
No, seriously, hope, hope, hopedy hope, tons and tons of hope.
It's not you alone that I'm reacting to, but my roommate (a browncoat himself, can you believe it?, but also a fellow who can go conversationally from Good morning to the end of all life on Earth in three sentences flat) has been singing doom just to bug me for some weeks now.
Why am I so hopeful? Is it something I can share with you? I hope so. (Sorry, snigger, snigger, couldn't stop myself.)
Let's begin with Star Trek. I know it took frellin' YEARS, but in the end fan power prevailed, movies were made, television series happened, and all the while fan fiction, fan art, conventions,etc. sustained the faithful. No, no, I don't want to wait for years either, nor do I want some stupid Firefly Next Gen sop, but remember, Trek was the first. I truly believe this makes it easier to demonstrate the FINANCIAL potential of the Firefly property to prospective investors. Here the selling point is not the excellence of the product, but the tremendous fandom response to the Firefly 'verse.
The response which says "If you make it, we will BUY it. Bring us your Firefly models, your Blue Sun t-shirts, your Pinyin to English handbooks, your protein bars, your leather necklaces, your Hawaiian shirts, your dinosaur models (just like Wash's!), Serenity coffee cups, calendars, brown leather dusters (please, please, please), BRING IT ON, WE WILL BUY IT!
Second, the need for networks to have airable product. More product all the time. More networks, too, hence even more product. I acknowledge Firefly to be an expensive product, but the potential to market to an established fan base (Firefly fans) and an auxilliary fan base (Whedon-Buffy-Angel fans) must not be dismissed as an irrelevant factor.
Third, the technology existant today may soon lead to entirely new financing and distribution models for artistic creations. What are the numbers? I heard it cost about a million per ep for Firefly. Can anyone confirm or correct this for me? Can we get a million viewers to subscribe for direct to DVD subscriptions? Let's find out!
Anyway, I've got to get back to work for now. GORAMMIT BE HOPEFUL! Why are we still talking about what's been decided?
lunatikat- all for one and one for dinner
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I think if Fox did make merchendise-y stuff, we would buy it.
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Why are we still talking about what's been decided?
I agree. (No offense) MAL: Why are we still discussing this?
Okay, the answer is reassurance, and I can live with that.
Keep flyin'!
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"Freedom is the Freedom to say that 2+2 makes 4. If that is granted, all else follws"-Winston, 1984
Keep flyin', and remember, THEY can't take the sky from US!
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There's one flaw with the "loan out the DVD" approach: It's invisible. The Powers that Make Movies can be shown sales figures. They can be shown exponential growth in fan sites. They cannot be reliably shown that you got a dozen people to watch.
But I'm not advocating that you all start buyin' crateloads of the DVD and giving them away. Unless you've got that manner of disposable income. But there needs to be a new petition, or a fan registry. That way, when I give my DVD to a friend and he likes the show, he can go sign something that proves that Firefly fandom is growing. It should spotlight numbers and countries, since the sense of a healthy foreign market for a film can help overcome any attitude of "it got cancelled in the States, so a film would probably flop here, too."
The end result would be another something Joss would have in his bag when the moneyfolk say, "Who wants to see a gorram space western, anyway?"
Just a thought for someone conversant with Web Things to ponder.
"Bang."
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Originally posted by Lunatikat:
Bring us your Firefly models, your Blue Sun t-shirts, your Pinyin to English handbooks, your protein bars, your leather necklaces, your Hawaiian shirts, your dinosaur models (just like Wash's!), Serenity coffee cups, calendars, brown leather dusters (please, please, please), BRING IT ON, WE WILL BUY IT!
Very well said. I don't think I've read it quite that way before. Give us your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free and wear really nice jackets.
I don't know if I think the same way that anybody else does, but I know that I get really disheartened with some of the "I just saw Firefly! How can we bring it back!?" It's wonderful, perfect, natural sentiment--just a year late. And certainly, better late than never. Maybe someday we'll be able to say that it was best late, that the release and the new blood really revived something that had waned just from slogging through the muck for so long.
But disheartening, nonetheless. It's a very bittersweet feeling and reminds me of all the things I should have done. I should have watched "Out of Gas" instead of Trek Uncut (bring the tomatoes, I deserve them); I should have sent ten postcards a day instead of five; I should have been in the thick of things from the beginning instead of lurking for so long.
Life's too short for ifs and maybes though and good Browncoats have taught me that there's very little that the Firefly perspective can't help with. That's my hope. When I'm down or feel awful or something doesn't go right, I look at this poor, short-lived, magnificent show and remember its wisdom and try to use that.
So I should get over being disheartened and revel in all the new names and faces and levels of enthusiasm and remember that while the losing side ain't necessarily the wrong one, sometimes how you get there is the worthier part.
Thanks, Lunatikat. And we live to fight another day. Tons and tons of hope.
I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case
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