Lay and Skilling convicted in Enron case

POSTED BY: Dayve
UPDATED: Saturday, May 27, 2006 01:26
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DAYVE

Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:15 PM

so, i guess Justice isn't so blind after all

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052506Y.shtml

....doG is my Copilot....

RIVER6213

Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:19 PM

SEVENPERCENT

Friday, May 26, 2006 12:30 AM

Unbelievable - These guys took hundreds of people for everything they had, committed all sorts of financial crimes, and helped craft the energy policy that's dragging this country down the tubes, then they have the nerve to say this:

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"I firmly believe I'm innocent of the charges against me," Lay said following the hearing. "We believe that God in fact is in control and indeed he does work all things for good for those who love the lord."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/enron_trial;_ylt=AgYoH3bG8uPL6CCazXFnpdOs0N
UE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

Yes. Because stealing pensions, bankrupting the working man, and being convicted of criminal charges just screams Jesus and love of the Lord.

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RUE

Friday, May 26, 2006 12:38 AM

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"We believe that God in fact is in control and indeed he does work all things for good for those who love the lord."

What a bunch of cra ... sorry, .... piffle.

I have to admit I was getting worried. I couldn't help but wonder what was taking so long.

Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

PDCHARLES

Friday, May 26, 2006 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
I have to admit I was getting worried. I couldn't help but wonder what was taking so long.

Yeah, Big G figured it was time to use the mega-nozzle to fill up the reserves again.
...AND squeegee the atmo.

Wha?!?... *sniff sniff* OH.... IM ON FIRE!!!

KWICKO

Friday, May 26, 2006 1:11 AM

The thought that scares me is the idea that Dubya just might pardon his good buddy Ken Lay once he's a little closer to the end of his presidency. It's one of those things leaving Presidents do; they get a list of "pardonable" people and they have the power to pardon them for damn near any crimes they've committed. Clinton did it for his buddy (and big-time Clinton campaign supporter) Marc Rich, Ford did it for Nixon (for any crimes he "may have committed"); I could definitely see Bushie pardoning Ken Lay, and possibly Skilling as well.

And they didn't rob "hundreds" - more like thousands. More like TENS of thousands. They basically stole these people's retirement, health care, homes, and livelihoods, and in many cases pretty much destroyed their lives. Sure, they COULD face life in prison, but who wants to bet they'll get a few years at most, and be pardoned from even serving that long?

Guess Bob Dylan had it right:

"Steal a little and they'll throw you in jail
Steal a lot and they'll make you king."

Here's hoping they at least get sent to a "pound-'em-in-the-ass" prison, where they can truly discover what it's like to get really screwed.

Mike

"Human beings are perhaps never more frightening than when they are convinced beyond doubt that they are right."
- Laurens van der Post

DAYVE

Friday, May 26, 2006 3:18 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Here's hoping they at least get sent to a "pound-'em-in-the-ass" prison

Probably a minimum security, fluffy pillow, tennis resort kinda place... although I can't think of any of those in Texas..... there are plenty of bad friggin prisons in the lone star state... (the Walls would be tough), but these guys will probably go elsewhere.

SHADOWFLY

Friday, May 26, 2006 3:22 AM

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Originally posted by Dayve:

so, i guess Justice isn't so blind after all

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052506Y.shtml

....doG is my Copilot....

Justice at last.

KWICKO

Friday, May 26, 2006 3:40 AM

Oh, yeah, Dayve, there's minimum-security prisons here in Texas. There's one right outside Austin, as a matter of fact (near Bastrop). We call it "Club Fed", although I don't think it's really a federal prison. One of the former "guests" was talking on the radio one day, telling how they used to "sneak out" to go buy beer. You can "sneak out" of prison? And you go back on your own? Some crazy world...

Me, I'd like to see Lay & Skilling heading into gen-pop in a REAL Texas prison, but it probably ain't gonna happen. They'll do Federal minimum-security time, if they do any time at all. Apparently, if you're rich, white, and rob thousands of people of millions of dollars, it's not really as much of a crime as if you were poor, a minority, and robbed a Texaco station of $12. Does that seem right to you?

I'm not trying to be "soft" on crime or defend a gas station stick-up man; I'm just saying that he's certainly no worse a criminal than the asshat in the $1200 suit who gleefully, willfully, maliciously, and remorselessly robs families of their life savings, and then has the gall to claim that Jeebus is on his side. Pieces of excrement like that deserve to be hanged from telephone poles, then let their victims go at 'em like they were piñatas at the Cinco de Mayo celebration. Hey, it was good enough for Il Duce...

Sometimes I really miss vigilante justice. How much does a fifty-cal sniper rifle sell for these days? ;)

Mike

"Human beings are perhaps never more frightening than when they are convinced beyond doubt that they are right."
- Laurens van der Post

DAYVE

Friday, May 26, 2006 1:29 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Apparently, if you're rich, white, and rob thousands of people of millions of dollars, it's not really as much of a crime as if you were poor, a minority, and robbed a Texaco station of $12. Does that seem right to you?

No, of course not... in fact i've known people who got some really horrendous jail time for a few seeds found in their car ashtray.... the criminal justice system in this country (& certainly TX) is, or seems to me at least, totally biased according to race, social status and of course the rich vs. poor...(like you said).
And that's why i try to fly as low under the radar as possible.. of course coming into public forums such as this one can probably come back to bite you in the ass... (they're everywhere)...

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How much does a fifty-cal sniper rifle sell for these days? ;)

i saw a .50 cal handgun the other day...(didn't even know they existed)....guy offered to let me shoot it, but i declined since i needed the use my arm the rest of the day.....

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