And slowly the country wakes up- IT'S ABOUT GORRAM TIME.

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, May 27, 2006 05:05
VIEWED: 3306
PAGE 3 of 4

FIRST PAGE PREV PAGE 1 2 3 4 NEXT PAGE LAST PAGE

HERO

Friday, May 19, 2006 2:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by piratejenny:
I think people are truly kidding themselves if they really think that voting is the answer to this problem, I've known all along that Jeb Bush is going to run for president next election, and he will win just like his brother won, they will cheat, and steal again, and if people think we are going to get a democratic congress they need to think again

Thats the spirit. I hope all the liberals think the same way.

My money is on Jeb Bush not running in 2008, although if the Democrats win in '08 then Jeb could be a good challenger in '12.

I think we are also seeing a shift in the debate. I think that Democrats need to take a close look at the last 6 years. Everytime they've challenged the President on an issue, they've lost. And everytime they have gotten any momentum, they've lost. My money is on them losing again this fall. Imagine, PA and OH both with conservative, African-American Republican Governors, both of whom will speak at the Republican Convention in 2008 and be on the VP shortlist.

McCain/Swann in 2008...vs. maybe a Kerry, Clinton, or a Gore? I suppose they could put up Obama as a counter...but he's a lightweight with one good speech under his belt...that didn't work for them the last time they tried someone like that (William Jennings Bryan).

"Having behind us the producing masses of this nation and the world, supported by the commercial interests, the laboring interests and the toilers everywhere, we will answer their demand for a gold standard by saying to them: You shall not press down upon the brow of labor this crown of thorns, you shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold."- Bryan, 1896.

H

FLETCH2

Friday, May 19, 2006 3:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Khyron:
I miss dreamtrove...

Try using a telescopic sight......

DAYVE

Friday, May 19, 2006 3:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
You have a way

i have a way ? .... is that better than a plan ?

I'm certainly not the person to argue New World Order politics... i just don't have enough facts to present a decent debate, but i do know that you can google Illimunati and find some pretty spooky things.
Hell, the Freemasons have freaked me out for years... what's with the aprons?

However, i don't doubt that there are powers that be who fully desire to shape the world to their own preverted way of thinking - that being said, it amuses me that, here is George W.... a rube, a puppet being used to advance the neo-conservative agenda; a man who desires to control the world... and yet he still can't control the pesky mesquite problem on his own measley 50 acre ranch...

how did we come to this... it seems to me that we deserve better.

CHRISISALL

Friday, May 19, 2006 6:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

As for Bush, he's turned out to be far less conservative than those who voted for him had hoped.

Thank you, AURaptor, I know that wasn't easy to say...

Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, May 19, 2006 6:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:

McCain/Swann in 2008...vs. maybe a Kerry, Clinton, or a Gore?

Alien VS. Predator; Whoevever wins, we lose.

Chrisisall

SONOFMAN

Saturday, May 20, 2006 1:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dayve:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
You have a way

i have a way ? .... is that better than a plan ?

I'm certainly not the person to argue New World Order politics... i just don't have enough facts to present a decent debate, but i do know that you can google Illimunati and find some pretty spooky things.
Hell, the Freemasons have freaked me out for years... what's with the aprons?

However, i don't doubt that there are powers that be who fully desire to shape the world to their own preverted way of thinking - that being said, it amuses me that, here is George W.... a rube, a puppet being used to advance the neo-conservative agenda; a man who desires to control the world... and yet he still can't control the pesky mesquite problem on his own measley 50 acre ranch...

how did we come to this... it seems to me that we deserve better.

i appreciate your comments..there is certainly an entire world of history that has been withheld from us on account of these secret societies.

from my best understanding to date..this can be traced back, if you are willing to consider the Bible, to illuminous knowledge, passed down by the elite trhough secret societies, dating all the way back to ancient Sumer. things like conditioning and mind control are techniques, i believe*, that were given to Man by the fallen angels, or the annunnaki, at the very dawn of human civilazation. the babylonians and egyptians were experts at engineered societal control, and it is my contention that the agenda that has been carried out by those in power, the royal bloodlines, has led us to this point, where we are on the brink of a fascist, global government, global economic serfdom, dumbed down dis-informed twilight zone reality that we are saddled wtih.

if i may refer you to a much more concise, in-debth and historically verified set of archive info, here is an interesting site. http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/

i just ask that you consider the relevency to the Bible, in regards to the ultimate agenda that is unfolding with the parallels of mystical knowledge through antiquity. the most obvious example i can give is the dollar bill, with the eye of Osiris and the pyramid of knowledge on the back. there is no doubt that there is an enormous ammount of occult symobolism in American government and politics today..it begs the question "i thought these were fundementalist Christians??" we have to consider the extend, and importance of such discoveries in relation to the beliefs of the elite who give energy and credence to these forces. if that seems hard to believe, research what the elite have been caught doing at the Bohemian grove. it seems clear to me to be an anti-christian agenda, despite what some might believe to be an otherwise Christian plan to dominate the world(or whatever the Democrats are claiming now). the evidence overwhelmingly points to the contrary..it makes you wonder, if Christianity is baseless, it is curious that the opposing belief would be embraced by such a distinguished portion of the populace. but thats all ill say, i dont want to start a bunch of controversy over mentioning the Bible as a reference

Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.

PIRATEJENNY

Saturday, May 20, 2006 4:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by RiveR6213:
I seriously doubt America would stand for another Bush, but I have been wrong in the past concerning matters like this...from time to time.

River

my point exactly, America won't stand for another Bush, after we let the last one cheat his way in twice in a row, I really don't think at this point it matters what Americans will stand for, they will do exactly what they want to do, just like they've done before, and continue to do. Although come 2008 I don't think anyone will be in denial about the cheating, thats why,(and this is my personal opinion) but I think something really nasty is going to happen after Jeb Bush and Co cheat their way in again, instead of another 9/11 I think its going to be something alot more devestating like a bomb, something that will cause so much chaos that they will be able to declare marshall law, Before you say Oh that won't happen this is America, I would just like to say 6 years ago I pretty much said everything thats happening now, and people said oh that won't happen this is America!!

AURAPTOR

Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

As for Bush, he's turned out to be far less conservative than those who voted for him had hoped.

Thank you, AURaptor, I know that wasn't easy to say...

Chrisisall

Hey, I'm just speaking truth to Chrisisall.

Bush has failed us with the expansion of the size of Gov't, increased spending, Harriet Miers, and now pure and complete amnesty to anyone who wants to wander across our borders and start picking strawberries, (ok, for Jewel's sake, we'll allow that

) spreading pine straw or hanging dry wall,....c'mon in! But you folks who want to come to the USA hoping to become doctors, architects and the like? You'll have to wait your turn, as we've set limits as to how many of your kind we want.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

SIGNYM

Saturday, May 20, 2006 3:40 PM

Quote:
Problem is, there isn't anyone on the Left willing to lead.

Hey, I'M willing to lead! Vote for ME!!

But I know what you mean. Most (but not all) politicians of either party are more than happy to play politics and trade favors and support/ vote for absolutely worthless legislation. That's why I think the politicans who voted against the Iraq war should be listened to, because they showed REAL leadership.

Quote:
Say what you will about Bush, he was better than Gore and Kerry.

I dunno. Would I rather have someone who waffles at the edge of a cliff or someone who confidently leads me over it? In some cases doing "nothing" is better than doing "something".

Quote:
And no, neither election was 'stolen', as Piratejenny has stated. That's just the epitome of a sore loser trying to explain away getting their ass kicked. ' You cheated! ' Waaahhh!

Auraptor, this is where you really need to pull your head out of your *ss. We judge the fairness of elections all over the world- from Afghanistan to the Ukraine- using exit polls. Our own exit polls have a track record that goes back decades- their error is well-known, as is the error of our vote tabulation. People far brighter than you and I looked at the probability of the exits polls and tabulations being so far off in 2004 and have come to the conclusion that FRAUD is the only possible explanation.

Quote:
As for Bush, he's turned out to be far less conservative than those who voted for him had hoped.

About 49-50% of the vote went to Bush. Approximately half of those people are now regretting their vote. So although Bush may not be as conservative as SOME people (most likely the religious right) had hoped for, he is more conservative than some of his other votes had anticpiated. You're basically comparing Bush's record to the farthest right of the conservative spectrum. So yeah- he's not Genghis Khan he's Emperor Nero. Whoopee.

---------------------------------
Don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining.

DAYVE

Saturday, May 20, 2006 6:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SonofMan:
an interesting site. http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/

i just ask that you consider the relevency to the Bible......

with the eye of Osiris and the pyramid of knowledge on the back. there is no doubt that there is an enormous ammount of occult symobolism .....

the evidence overwhelmingly points to the contrary..it makes you wonder, if Christianity is baseless,

I agree that there is probably much that the majority of the worlds population has been kept in the dark about....and much of the secrecy dates to Biblical times.
I do consider the Bible as a relevant and viable source of information, perhaps not nearly as much as the more fundamentilist person would approach it.. (I lean toward science and a basic belief in evolution), but I do consider the Bible in many instances.
You mention Osiris, who was (I believe) also worshiped by the Pagans who predated the written word of the Bible. In fact, some recent authors have written that the "Resurrecting Man" cult of the Pagans perhaps led to the "invention" of Jesus Christ...and while I remain undecided on this matter one way or another, the premise poses many unanswered questions.
I realize that this issue is cause for much debate and one that could stir animosity on either side. That is certainly not my wish here. I do prefer to keep an open mind and hear all arugments equally before deciding an issue. I try not to force my beliefs on anyone, however I do express my opinion, only in the desire to begin honest and open debate, in the hopes of better understanding that which remains a mystery to me.
Thanks for the link... I have visited the site before, but not lately. I will review it soon.

FIRST PAGE PREV PAGE 1 2 3 4 NEXT PAGE LAST PAGE