The New Republician Guide to America
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Quote:The global climate has changed by a greater degree that it has today. The global climate has not ever changed as quickly or as drastically.
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Actually, in my opinion, if the global warming of the Earth is a natural cycle, we should probably seek to survive it, not stop it.
I think any natural change is being accelerated and exasperated by Human action, and this is not a good thing.
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Quote:And yet, abortions are actually more reponsible. "Oops! I got pregnant!" to "I'm not ready for kids". to "I'll have to stay up nights, feed them clothe them, take care of them for a long, long time. I expect myself to be a good mom. I know it'll take a lot to be a good mom. And I'm not ready to be a GOOD mom." It's not careless. Careless is having a kid anyway and then neglecting it.
I myself do not believe in anti-abortion laws. I feel that casual abortions are horrific (and sadly, too-frequent.) Many women who get abortions are not raped. Nor are they the innocent victims of lamentable illness. Rather, most abortions go along the lines of, "I probably won't get pregnant" to "Oops! I got pregnant!" to "I'm not ready for kids" to "Time to get an abortion." I really do see it as a kind of careless murder in many cases.
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"Every taxpayer supports the military, and every voter controls it."
I'd really like to see the tax code with a line-item veto on it - you know, education, health, environment, military, corporate hand-outs, etc. And though it wouldn't affect the total tax bill, the taxpayer could decide where the money should go. You'd be voting with your pocket.
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"It's not careless. Careless is having a kid anyway and then neglecting it."
I can see the bumper sticker now: 'Abortion - The Most Responsible Thing an Irresponsible Person Can Do.'
--Anthony
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:Quote:
I take it you will be enlisting after thousands die in Iran, Syria, North Korea, and the innumerable African countries we don't like right?
This is a poor argument, and I see it frequently.
Why is it that when there is a pro-war person and an anti-war person, the anti-war person always says, "If you like the war so much, why don't you enlist?" A person who wants the military in X war shouldn't have to sign up to hold that opinion.
A person who doesn't want the military in x war shouldn't be accused of wanting dead American soldiers, either.
It's a sort of sarcastic counter-argument to the GOP tack of "if you don't support the war, you don't support the troops."
Therefore, if the right is so gung-ho to support the war, then instead of sending the poor (because facts show that recruitment is higher out of impoverished areas) send yourself in their place. It is a volunteer army, after all.
In other words, we don't want to see people die who might not think it's a great idea to invade, but who serve out of love for their country. If you have all the love and you have all the gung-ho, then Johnny get your gun.
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
This is a poor argument, and I see it frequently.
Why is it that when there is a pro-war person and an anti-war person, the anti-war person always says, "If you like the war so much, why don't you enlist?"
Because if they are pro-war they should fight in the war, if you are pro-taxes you pay taxes willingly, if you are pro-capitalist you modify your activities to promote capitalism, if you are pro-religion you attend religious activities, if you are pro-environment you practice eco-friendly activities. I don't see why this shouldn't extend to war.
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A person who wants the military in X war shouldn't have to sign up to hold that opinion.
Agreed. My point was that there is a large group of people who are quite willing to send others out to be maimed (physically or emotionally) or killed in their favorite war, but who are not willing to risk their lives for the same cause.
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Originally posted by rue:Quote:And yet, abortions are actually more reponsible. "Oops! I got pregnant!" to "I'm not ready for kids". to "I'll have to stay up nights, feed them clothe them, take care of them for a long, long time. I expect myself to be a good mom. I know it'll take a lot to be a good mom. And I'm not ready to be a GOOD mom." It's not careless. Careless is having a kid anyway and then neglecting it.
I myself do not believe in anti-abortion laws. I feel that casual abortions are horrific (and sadly, too-frequent.) Many women who get abortions are not raped. Nor are they the innocent victims of lamentable illness. Rather, most abortions go along the lines of, "I probably won't get pregnant" to "Oops! I got pregnant!" to "I'm not ready for kids" to "Time to get an abortion." I really do see it as a kind of careless murder in many cases.
At the risk of dragging this discussion too much into the abortion debate, I just want to quickly say that I think Anthony brings up a good argument. Rue obviously has a good point too, but going with what Anthony said, it's important that abortion doesn't become some alternative choice of pregnancy-prevention and an excuse for women (and their partners) to become lazy with their prevention methods. The first choice should always be the usual methods of prevention, and abortion just in case the methods that were tried during intercourse didn't work.
This idea is not at all worked out yet, but maybe there should be like some sort of limit to how often a non-rape victim may have an abortion, some mandate like "Barring uncontrolled circumstances, a woman may have up to 3 abortions in her lifetime". Or 5, or whatever. Just something that stops the more careless and negligent to constantly have unprotected sex and think an abortion will get rid of the consequences. Because while I'm pro-choice, I do NOT want to see abortion becoming standard practice and a normal event in daily life.
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Originally posted by SevenPercent:
It's a sort of sarcastic counter-argument to the GOP tack of "if you don't support the war, you don't support the troops."
One of my favorite things to hear, right up there with "all Liberals are communists"
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Therefore, if the right is so gung-ho to support the war, then instead of sending the poor...
And saying "we'll pray for your safe return"
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In other words, we don't want to see people die who might not think it's a great idea to invade, but who serve out of love for their country. If you have all the love and you have all the gung-ho, then Johnny get your gun.
Except that most Republicans prefer to fight things that don't fight back (deer, elk and the like). Please note I am not saying that hunting is bad just that people who hunt must be incredibly courageous to attack something that will run away if it catches your scent as opposed to things that shoot back.
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I can see the bumper sticker now: 'Abortion - The Most Responsible Thing an Irresponsible Person Can Do.'
Since I suspect you've never been pregnant, I hope you'll give some thought to analogies you might be able to understand.
Have you ever turned down a job b/c you didn't think you could do it well? You might have thought about all the time you'd have to spend evenings and weekends studying the new field. Or you might have realized the boss would require long odd hours that wouldn't fit in with your existing responsibilites. You realized that you could take the job and be a slacker; but honestly accepting the job was a commitment that you just weren't up to.
Now I can see your mind spinning off some trite snippy comment. A child is not a job! And that's why I asked you to bear with an analogy or two since you're not now, nor will you ever be, in a position to get pregnant.
A woman who gets pregnant measures what she thinks she will have to do for the future child. The higher her standards, the lower her resources, the more daunting the future. And the more responsible having an abortion becomes.
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