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Friday, May 19, 2006 7:24 PM

I saw a guy wearing this t-shirt the other day that said "South Dakota--turning rape victims into mothers since 2006!".

I have real problem with what happened in South Dakota, but that can be found in the South Dakota thread or my myspace blog.

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Friday, May 19, 2006 7:40 PM

Sassalicious for President!

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Friday, May 19, 2006 7:50 PM

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Sassalicious for President!



YES!

What's really funny is at the age of 4-9, when all the other little girls were talking about how they wanted to be princesses, teachers, horse trainers, or whatever else little girls always say, I was talking about how I was going to be a pilot, an astronaut, and then the first woman president. Good to know there's someone else in my corner.

But now I'm going to be a doctor.

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Friday, May 19, 2006 8:47 PM

darn it! I was going to be the Limerick advisor to POTUS!


I had my office in the West Wing all planned and everything.

Curses! foiled again!

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Friday, May 19, 2006 11:07 PM

You're welcome to come with me on my doctoring adventures abroad. I'm sure the children of war-torn and poverty-stricken areas would love a good limerick or two.

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Friday, May 19, 2006 11:32 PM

Hello all,

I do not agree with everything Hero said, but I can at least understand his point of view on most things. (It's important that even if you don't agree with someone, you at least understand why they believe what they believe.)

Except for one thing.

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"There is no speech protection for obsenity."


I do not agree with this. Not even a little bit. All speech must be protected, or no speech is protected. There are forms of obscenity I hate and despise... But I am comforted by them nontheless. I know that as long as they exist, then speech in general is safe. Once someone starts whittling away at free speech, declaring "this" acceptable but "this" unacceptable or obscene, it starts a very slippery slope.

I myself do not believe in anti-abortion laws. I feel that casual abortions are horrific (and sadly, too-frequent.) Many women who get abortions are not raped. Nor are they the innocent victims of lamentable illness. Rather, most abortions go along the lines of, "I probably won't get pregnant" to "Oops! I got pregnant!" to "I'm not ready for kids" to "Time to get an abortion." I really do see it as a kind of careless murder in many cases.

But I don't believe in legislating something that is difficult or impossible to enforce. I call it the 'impractical law syndrome.' Some places have a law making suicide illegal. That is a rediculous, unenforcable law. The war on drugs has some parellels. In fact, given our great and mighty failure to end the 'problem' of marijuana, I say class it as a combination of cigarettes and alcohol and make it legal. (Smoke it outside and don't smoke and drive.)

The same holds true for abortions. There will always be a coathanger, a ripperdoc, a poison, or a beating which will 'solve' the 'problem' of pregnancy. It is difficult to adequately enforce anti-abortion laws, and the end result is that women will have abortions anyway, and some of them will die.

I will let God decide when it was or was not a sin. Until the baby is born, it is impractical to protect its life.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Saturday, May 20, 2006 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by Hero:
Homosexuals are welcome, but not entitled to special consideration or protections. In other words...its nobody's business.



I agree they should not have special privileges OR RESTRICTIONS, they should be treated the same as everyone else (such as being allowed to be considered a couple by law).

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The truth is Saddam was responsible for the 2003 war. He never backed off his policy of confrotation.After 9/11 our policy changed to one in which we no longer allow these people to sit back and poke us with sticks year after year...we hit back.


So we should invade everyone who pisses us off? I'm sure the rest of the world will love that. I take it you will be enlisting after thousands die in Iran, Syria, North Korea, and the innumerable African countries we don't like right?

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They have economically reformed, but politically they are mired in 20th Century thinking.


This is just my opinion, but I don't think that Republicans have a right to criticize anyone else for not adapting their ideology with the times.

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The world needs a UN that is effective. That means an end to corruption and an end to meaningless gestures. In the 90's the UN became a debating society whose words meant nothing. Likewise the corruption grew so bad as to make the UN completely ineffective and helped foster the biggest fraud in human history under its oil for food program.


True, but what we have is the U.N. as it is now. If you can change it be my guest, but for now the U.N. is seen as the authority by most of the world, if we do not follow the rules of the authorty then we become the rogue states that we accuse others of being.

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Everyone has the right to make decision about their own body. Its when those decisions affect others that the government needs to step in. I have no objection to a woman signing a DNR, donating a kidney, or getting huge fake boobies (who doesn't love big breasted organ doners who don't want to live on some machine). But when she becomes pregnant, another life is involed and that person has rights that may conflict with those of the mother. In such cases the State has the duty to intervene. The question is when does a collection of cells become life. Some believe at conception, some believe not until 9 people in black robes say they do.


I agree with Sassalicious on this (it was Sassalicious right?), As long as the baby is literally connected to the mother I see it as one life and the mothers right to do what she pleases with her body.

That being said I do believe that safe sex is the best bet, the number of abortions in the country is staggering but banning abortion doesn't help society at all.

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Most Republicans believe such a decision is a social or religeous matter


Keep your church out of my state.

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and thus it should be decided by majority vote...at the State level.


Agree, but Republicans keep trying to get it banned country-wide, in South Dakota the new law was introduced specifically because of the Conservative Justices that Bush nominated. They want the case to go to the SC so that Roe V. Wade can be reversed.

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Everyone needs regulation. Such regulation needs to be designed to foster growth, make safe products, etc. Who cares if the enviroment is bad if your enemployed?


And what good is having a job if you can't breathe the air? Regulation goes beyond environmental considerations as well. Consider Enrons collapse, greater regulation of financial consierations might have gone a long way towards preventing that.

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Republicans praise soldiers in every way, not just speeches. We sing their songs, wave the flag, cry at funerals, and try and make sure they have everything they need to fight the wars of today and recover from the wars they return from.


As does almost everyone the Republicans are not special in this regard.

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I suggest its the Democrats who are trying to short change not on

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Saturday, May 20, 2006 1:12 AM

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Originally posted by Sassalicious:
Prior to this, you state that I have a right to donate a kidney if I want. Do I also have a right to withold donation of said kidney, even if another person dies? Prior Supreme Court decisions say I do. Therefore, the conclusion that can be drawn is a person doesn't have to use his or her body in fashion that benefits someone else, even if that person dies. Extrapolating this to pregnancy, it means I don't have to use my womb for the fetus's benefit.

I'm a woman, not an incubator.

Of all the pro-choice arguments I've seen, this is one of the best. Nice!



Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.

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Saturday, May 20, 2006 1:33 AM

Yes Sassalicious has a weird way of coming up with these arguments.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

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Saturday, May 20, 2006 1:48 AM


Hello all,

First, that IS the best Pro-choice argument I've ever seen.


Now on to some other quotes:

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I take it you will be enlisting after thousands die in Iran, Syria, North Korea, and the innumerable African countries we don't like right?


This is a poor argument, and I see it frequently.

Why is it that when there is a pro-war person and an anti-war person, the anti-war person always says, "If you like the war so much, why don't you enlist?" A person who wants the military in X war shouldn't have to sign up to hold that opinion. Likewise, a person who doesn't want the military in X war shouldn't have to drop out of military service to hold that opinion. What a chaotic military we would have if people were forced to sign up or drop out based on their opinion of the moment!

Every taxpayer supports the military, and every voter controls it.


"As for it baing man-made, who knows? The Earth does have cycles which may be causing it, but that does not mean that we should not try to stop it."

Actually, in my opinion, if the global warming of the Earth is a natural cycle, we should probably seek to survive it, not stop it.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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