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POSTED BY: SP33D
UPDATED: Monday, May 22, 2006 18:54
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FOLLOWMAL

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 5:10 PM

Your Highness! I am so glad to see you Queen!

We missed you!

Oh, and she's right.

"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal

CHRISTHECYNIC

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 5:32 PM

Before anything else let me put this out there:
Firefly and Serenity are equals in terms of acting and effects, as for writing I would say that Firefly is better because it didn't need to squeeze in so much in such a small amount of time.

The point is that Firefly is at least as good as Serenity, so if you liked Serenity you should like Firefly.

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Now then:

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Originally posted by SP33D:
what are your responses to this criticism?

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"Nearly a complete ripoff of the anime series "Outlaw Star". Down to the 'mysterious girl in a box' syndrome. Jesus christ, did Whedon just get bored with campy vampire teen dramas, watch Outlaw Star and think "OMG I CAN RE-WRITE JUST ENOUGH OF IT TO APPEAL TO MIDDLE AMERICA"? Weak."-Netflix Review

A while back a lot of people said this very thing, there was just one problem: not one of them had actually watched the show. Stop and let that sink in for a moment.

They made all of these judgements without ever watching an episode, most of them hadn't even watched part of an episode instead basing it all on one commerical.

I remember someone who said that more or less word for word changing their mind completely after actually watching the show. (Who am I kidding? They all said it more or less word for word, they had no originality at all)

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This next one I'll respond to blow by blow:

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Firefly -which features cowboyish, occasionally Chinese speaking, characters who cruise around space in the future

I wouldn't actually call them cowboyish but it is a valid description.

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- is, quite possibly, the worst television show I have ever seen.

Matter of opinon of course, there can be no response to it.

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The acting, writing and special effects are all SHOCKINGLY bad.

Obviously this is again opinion but if the awards won are any indication the effects are good. (These same effects can be found on the new Battlestar Galactica because the producers of it wanted Firefly Style effects and hired the company that did the effects for Firefly.)

I personally have never seen better acting or writing.

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Obviously the acting, writing and effects in Firefly are no worse than the acting, writing and effects in the movie, so you should listen to this person only if you thought that was "SHOCKINGLY bad" of course if that is the case I have to ask: If you did believe that why are you even here?

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It is really almost unbelievable how bad this show is.

That's nothing, I've seen things where it IS unbelievable how bad they are.

But regrardless it is very simple, the series is no worse than the movie, the only way you will agree with this person is if you think that Serenity is the worst movie you've ever seen.

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To the fans: YOU'RE CRAZY!

Proof that the person isn't interested in being objective.

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To the interested: BEWARE!

Redundant but who can blame him or her for ending on a strong note?

OOKAMIKAWAHARA

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 5:35 PM

Thank you FMF
That comment had me in going nan desu ka ?
What the in Japanese. Yes there are a few similarities does that mean this show stole the whole plot line no. Theres more to each show then that. Anyways back on topic here. To be honest as everyone else is pointing out yes there is a little of both sex and violence in the series, but its not too graphic. I would say try it and form your own opinion. In the end thats what matters ie not what some one else decides, but what you as an individual decides is good. Hope that helps.
mata, Ookami yori

OOKAMIKAWAHARA

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 5:37 PM

Sorry about the post back to back, but its good to see you around here again Queen!!!! Was getting a bit worried as you can tell. Hope everythings going well for you!!! Hows the book sales going? ---- Sorry just had to throw out a shameless plug for ya. Well take it easy and I will talk with you later.
mata, Ookami yori

NOSADSEVEN

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:04 PM

Re: the negative netflix user reviews...

Fans of Firefly and Serenity are a passionate bunch, and as such we attract people who will post negative, inflammitory posts and reviews just to see if they can get a reaction.

The reviews that seem to be concerning you are brief and simply bash the show without backing anything up. How much credibility would you give them?

Not everyone likes the show, but that is generally because it does not suit their taste, not because it is objectively bad.

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FIRESTALKER

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:47 PM

Well, I haven't really watched "Cowboy Bebop", but if you want to know the differences and how they stack up to "Firefy" then I suggest listening to "The Signal" Season 2 Episode 2. They have a feature that compares "Firefly" to other Sci Fi shows and that one they compare "Firefly" to "Cowboy Bebop".

I love "The Signal" I listen to them as soon as they come out... Their great!

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QUEENOFTHENORTH

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:19 PM

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Originally posted by FollowMal:

Your Highness! I am so glad to see you Queen!

We missed you!

Oh, and she's right.

"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal

Thanks. Good to know I'm appreciated around here.

And of course I'm right. You just have to read my sig to know that.

Oh, and Ooka, good to see you too. I've actually been busy working and I was on vacation last week, hence my very long absence. Thanks for the shameless plug, by the way.

"I'm having one of those things - a headache with pictures."

"Of course I'm right. And if I'm not, may we all be horribly crushed from above somehow."

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RMMC

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 10:07 PM

I'll have to go with Deepgirl. If your parents are that concerned, then they should possibly watch it first themselves before making a decision.

The above posts cover pretty much most of the adult content. Basically, the violence is (with the exception of war games) less than the movie, but the sex is more.

I can't say more than that as they are your parents, they know you and, yeah, they love you, and while they may be strict from your view point, but they're just trying to protect you from things that may be a bit too intense for you...right now. I'd say, be up front, sit down and talk with them about it. Offer to let them watch it first without you. Believe it or not, you may actually get farther this way and possibly be allowed more freedom later.

My folks were a mite over-protective as well, but I tried this when there had been a movie I wanted to see that was rated 'R.' We discussed the matter, why I wanted to see it and all. Then the surprising thing happened: my dad, my severely over-protective dad, took me to see it. Afterwords, we sat down again and discussed the movie. With those actions I managed to convince my folks that I was ready to see things like that. After that, the rule became, if I wanted to see an adult movie (R only in those days), just to let the parental units know, and they'd take me to see it.

I hate to be a wet blanket, but sneaking around behind your folks backs will only end badly. You'll end up with more restrictions rather than less, because they'll feel they can't trust you.

Don't forget to let us know how it goes.

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RMMC

SP33D

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:03 PM

Thanks for the input guys! I will definately give it a try. I really appreciate all of the responses. If the community fan base says anything about the show then I know it will be well worth watching. See you in a while and hopefully I will be able to call myself a browncoat. :)

ADMIRALJEDI

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:41 PM

I didn't read all the threads to see if this was said already but:

Get them to watch it first. Good chance they'll like it AND you'll have converted two more browncoats to the cause. ;-)

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