Concerned.

POSTED BY: SP33D
UPDATED: Monday, May 22, 2006 18:54
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SP33D

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:04 AM

Hello Everyone,
I am extremely new to the "Verse" especially since I only watched serenity last week and have not watched firefly yet. I did see Serenity though and loved it! I am concerned however that Firefly will not be on-the-level with Serenity. You see my parents are kinda strickt like (OK so they are WAY overbearing) and will not allow me to watch Firefly if there are too many... questionable scenes (excessive violence, sex, etc...) So I was just wondering how much of that stuff is there in it. I would love to watch the show but might not be able to well I will find a way but I would rather not go around their backs.
Cross your fingers.

RKLENSETH

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:12 AM

In terms of violence Serenity is much more violent though some episodes do get close to the level of Serenity (ie. War Stories).

In terms of offensive things (that other people might find; I personally don't find anything offensive in Firefly) and stuff of a sexual nature, the show has much more of this although all of it is of a TV-14 nature (they aren't on the level of Deadwood,Rome or Big Love) but it probably stretches the TV-14 rating (ie. hmmm...War Stories...again).

I hope this helps.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

LAUGHINGMUSE

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:24 AM

Um. If they didn't have a problem with Serenity when River's kicking butt, they shouldn't have a problem with Firefly. However, it depends on what will raise your parents' hackles.

There's no frontal nudity in the series, either male or female. However, there are implications-of-nudity that American parents wouldn't want their 11-year-old son to see. (Yet they'll take him to the neighborhood gorefest. But I digress. All over the furniture, too. Don't worry, it comes right out with baking soda.)

Sex
The Train Job - approx. 10 seconds (Inara with her client), pretty tame, actually. You can see more while playing GTA.

Nudity
Serenity (two-hour pilot) - topless female, from behind, approx. 30 seconds; nude female, side, 5 seconds
Our Mrs. Reynolds - nude female, from behind, waist-up
Trash - nude male, from behind and side, approx. 2 minutes
The Message - nude male, implied

Graphic Violence
...I'm not sure what they consider graphic violence. There's no gore-splattering, if that's what you mean. Someone gets sucked into an engine, but if I remember correctly, we saw more of Mal's reaction than the actual event. A few shootings where we do see blood (because - hey, surprise, bullets going into a human body cause some damage), but less gore than what you see in most PG movies today.

I almost forgot:
The Message - semigraphic scene where the doctor starts to cut into someone (you see more in medical thrillers)

Edit, big fat Duuuuuuuuhhh (I cannot brain today. I have the dumb.):
War Stories. Graphic violence. Not for the faint of heart. I wouldn't let kids under 13 watch this. Many adults have problems with this. Gore, torture, high squirm-factor. I tend to skip this episode whenever I'm rewatching my DVDs - or skip over the heaviest parts of the torture - so I didn't remember it. My mistake. Sorry!!

Sorry. That's probably not very helpful... Hopefully, others can fill in the bits that I missed.

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Mankind makes tools; we use them to augment our hands, arms and legs.
The computer augments the brain and this makes it very unpopular with totalitarians. - Charles J.C. Lyall

RKLENSETH

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:35 AM

You also forgot many of the sexual references as well as the girl on girl sex scene in War Stories. War Stories as already mentioned contains graphic depiction of torture as well as some gun violence. All in all War Stories is the most graphically violent and sexually oriented episodes in Firefly so if your parents can stomach that then I don't think they'll have a problem with the rest of Firefly.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

SP33D

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:36 AM

Ok Now I am really concerned.

"Nearly a complete ripoff of the anime series "Outlaw Star". Down to the 'mysterious girl in a box' syndrome. Jesus christ, did Whedon just get bored with campy vampire teen dramas, watch Outlaw Star and think "OMG I CAN RE-WRITE JUST ENOUGH OF IT TO APPEAL TO MIDDLE AMERICA"? Weak."-Netflix Review

Firefly -which features cowboyish, occasionally Chinese speaking, characters who cruise around space in the future - is, quite possibly, the worst television show I have ever seen. The acting, writing and special effects are all SHOCKINGLY bad. It is really almost unbelievable how bad this show is. To the fans: YOU'RE CRAZY! To the interested: BEWARE!-Netflix Review

Is there any truth to this? I know that I should form my own opinions but? I dont know, what are your responses to this criticism?

LAUGHINGMUSE

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:45 AM

If you don't like Joss Whedon's other work, and didn't like Serenity, you might just want to keep walking.

If you like Joss Whedon's other work, and liked Serenity, give Firefly a watch.

I've never really put much stock in online reviews. They can be ghostwritten, copied and doctored ad infinitum...in short, unless the review comes from a known and trusted source that I can trace back to an individual carbon life form whom I know and respect, I tend to disregard it.

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Mankind makes tools; we use them to augment our hands, arms and legs.
The computer augments the brain and this makes it very unpopular with totalitarians. - Charles J.C. Lyall

DAVESHAYNE

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SP33D:
Is there any truth to this? I know that I should form my own opinions but? I dont know, what are your responses to this criticism?

No I don't think there is any truth to that. In my opinion it's the best episodic television ever produced. The writing and acting are both top notch and the special effects are a cut above for TV. It has a deliberately unpolished production style that some people can't quite get behind but which lends an air of authenticity that most TV sci-fi never manages.

But that's mostly irrellevant. You saw Serenity and you liked it right? Firefly is better. That's all you need to know.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

AGATSU

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SP33D:
Ok Now I am really concerned.

"The acting, writing and special effects are all SHOCKINGLY bad."

I guess that's why Firefly got a ton of awards, including an EMMY and a Visual Effects Society Award for the special effects. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0303461/awards
I can honestly say that I watched every episode more than 15 times within the last 2 months, and I love every one of them and they still don't bore me.
I guess that might be because of the outstanding acting, writing and special effects. And Firefly has something about it that I can't define, a certain feeling of... home, I dunno how to put it.
Just forget reviews and what I just said and watch the pilot and the first episode. If you like that (and you will, if you liked Serenity), you'll love the rest, because it just keeps getting better and better the better you know the characters (lots of better here). It will also change the way you see Serenity, and make it so much more remarkable (and sad).
Unfortunately, you obviously got a lot of spoilers from the movie, but a lot of people on here saw the movie first, and well, they're here.
So have fun. I envy you for being able to see the series for the first time, honestly.
Take. Your. Time.

And welcome!

BROWNCOATS UNITE!

BELOWZERO

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SP33D:
Ok Now I am really concerned.

"Nearly a complete ripoff of the anime series "Outlaw Star". Down to the 'mysterious girl in a box' syndrome. Jesus christ, did Whedon just get bored with campy vampire teen dramas, watch Outlaw Star and think "OMG I CAN RE-WRITE JUST ENOUGH OF IT TO APPEAL TO MIDDLE AMERICA"? Weak."-Netflix Review

Firefly -which features cowboyish, occasionally Chinese speaking, characters who cruise around space in the future - is, quite possibly, the worst television show I have ever seen. The acting, writing and special effects are all SHOCKINGLY bad. It is really almost unbelievable how bad this show is. To the fans: YOU'RE CRAZY! To the interested: BEWARE!-Netflix Review

Is there any truth to this? I know that I should form my own opinions but? I dont know, what are your responses to this criticism?

They are full of go-se.
Remember, the critics originally hated Star Wars back in 1977 and look what happened....

Form your own opinion. That's my advice to anyone and everyone, BTW. Don't take anyone's word for it unless you know for a fact they have the exact same taste you do (and even then; my best friend adores Mystery Science Theatre and I go "ugggggh" and she hates Monty Python and I consider Holy Grail to be one of the funniest films I've ever seen...)

Best you get the DVDs, rent 'em if you must, and look for yourself. Then you have an informed opinion and can answer your question for yourself!

"Do not go gentle into that good night....
Rage, rage against the dying of the light. . ."
--Dylan Thomas

Though my soul may set in darkness
It will rise in perfect light.
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night.

FLORALBUNNY

Tuesday, May 16, 2006 5:59 AM

I still don't watch what the Blue Hands Men do in Ariel even though I know it's fake.
As for parental approval, I'm glad I'm an adult b/c mine would never have let me watch.

bun
~6/23~Serenity/Firefly Summer~9/30~
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