some screwups in production or 'they wouldnt get it anyhow'
POSTED BY: GroovyAl
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:59
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something I am suprised that noone mentioned becausee it is so very obvious is the fact that in the pilot episode is that the first shot of Mal in the derelict the sticky is already in place
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Something in the opening scene in "Trash" doesn't really make sense to me. When Yosaffbridge and Mal are pointing guns at each other, Monty says "So, you guys have met". Then there's the fight, then Mal tells Monty what the girl has done, to which she replies "You're a liar, Malcolm Reynolds". Monty says "I haven't yet told you his name" or so, and this seems to prove that Mal's right.
But how? Monty already knows they've met before, so her knowing his name shouldn't mean a thing, should it? What do you think?
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They obviously left out the bit where Mal explained everything to Monty because it was unnecessary and they wanted to get on with the story.
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Yes, obviously. Doesn't answer my question though how knowing Mal's name proves she's guilty when it's already clear Mal and her know each other.
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This isn't a mistake question, but I do have one from the BDM that has been driving me nuts ever since I saw it.
In the beginning after Mal talks to Kaylee in the engine room and is confronted by Simon, both of them walk down to the sickbay and Simon injects Mal with something and they continue to the cargo bay. What was it?
Am I missing something really obvious here, or is this another one of those question marks that have no answer yet.
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I always figured it was a vaccine or immunisation shot for something that could be found on Lilac. Could also be a reference to some storyline that we never got to see played out in the first season.
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I think we don't know what Mal is injected with. Maybe they've done it to tell those who didn't watch the series something about Mal's and Simon's relationship and status; that Simon has become the ship's doctor and isn't just a passenger, and that their relationship is somewhat trustful, since they're shouting at each other pretty bad and Mal still lets Simon give him a shot without even talking about it.
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When Simon confronts Mal, he says something along the lines of "I'm guessing I'll need to be innocked before we hit planetside."
So yeah, he means inoculated, so there must be some sort of disease, plague or condition on the planet.
This kind of links to The Train Job and Ariel too.
Main reason though is to show that Simon is a doctor.
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Plus with Joss's genius one shot pan (two at most) through the entire ship to get you used to the layout and restore stability after the frenetic opening, I think they needed an excuse to go into the infirmary! Innoculations work as good as any, 'specially considering the afore mentioned planet-wide sicknesses.
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Quote:I think Monty's remark about them having met is more a supposition than anything, sarcasm even. Just done for the comedy, I think. Seen that bit in other shows/movies, etc. Sorta a cliche they're playing on there.
Originally posted by thisviciouscabaret:
Something in the opening scene in "Trash" doesn't really make sense to me. When Yosaffbridge and Mal are pointing guns at each other, Monty says "So, you guys have met". Then there's the fight, then Mal tells Monty what the girl has done, to which she replies "You're a liar, Malcolm Reynolds". Monty says "I haven't yet told you his name" or so, and this seems to prove that Mal's right.
But how? Monty already knows they've met before, so her knowing his name shouldn't mean a thing, should it? What do you think?
Them getting in a fight doesn't really give Monty much to go on, though. Saffron's a tricky lass, and nothing's been decided. There may have been some chance for her to talk her way out of it. (Mistaken identity or something, who knows, but I'm sure she could have thought of something :) Her calling Mal by his full name just seals the deal, though. Who're you going to trust, your old war buddy, or the girl who's now obviously been holding back info? Hope that makes sense, it's been a week or so since I've watched that ep.
How I took it, though: Mal and Saff draw on each other, and Monty doesn't know why. He breaks up the fight and tries to get to the bottom of it, and catches Saff in a lie. That lends more creedence to Mal's story, and surely Monty trusts Mal quite a bit anyways.
All that said, it is a slightly sloppy bit of writing, there. (Well, gorramit, not even Whedon and crew are perfect all the time... just mostly :) I think basically the writers needed a way to get Yo/Saff/Bridge on board Serenity again. There's also a jump in time between that part and Monty flying off in the ship yelling down at Saff, so we can presume that some manner of further conversation took place, too.
(And sorry for the long post, while I'm at it. Got on a roll, there... :)
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