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some screwups in production or 'they wouldnt get it anyhow'

POSTED BY: GroovyAl
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:59
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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 6:18 PM

Another thing about the mule in the pilot...when Mal, Jayne, and Zoe get off on Patience's Moon (dunno the name), you can see Jayne driving the mule off the ramp, presumably to bury the goods. Later, after the crazy shootout, you see all three of our BDH's riding horses back to Serenity. Where'd the mule go? I guess Jayne could have driven it out to the bury point, buried the stuff, then driven the mule back and walked back to Mal and Zoe in time for them to tell him what to do...but that seems unlikely.

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 6:35 PM

There's a whole list of bloopers (for the show and the movie) compiled here:

http://www.browncoats.com/index.php?ContentID=42e6e0aad9f9b

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:20 PM

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Originally posted by Volk564:
Another thing about the mule in the pilot...when Mal, Jayne, and Zoe get off on Patience's Moon (dunno the name), you can see Jayne driving the mule off the ramp, presumably to bury the goods. Later, after the crazy shootout, you see all three of our BDH's riding horses back to Serenity. Where'd the mule go? I guess Jayne could have driven it out to the bury point, buried the stuff, then driven the mule back and walked back to Mal and Zoe in time for them to tell him what to do...but that seems unlikely.



Yet that is what happened, at least according to Jayne. Quoting from the script here since I'm too lazy to put in the disk but this is the jist of what he says at least, "I buried 'em good. Equipment's back on the boat." My guess would be that Serenity is parked fairly close to the rendevous spot (no more than a mile or two away) but that the goods were buried off in another direction. So Jayne goes puttering off with the power bars, plants them, and putters back to the ship to stow the mule and whatever shovel thing he used to bury the stuff then runs to catch up with Mal and Zoe who would be advancing toward the meeting place slowly to check out the lay of the land - trying to find the most advantageous position for the upcoming fight.


David

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Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:05 PM

Woa, you're 100% right. Just rewatched the episode, and sure enough, Jayne says just that. That cleared it up! :smile"
Sidenote - as I'm typing this, the screenshot on the left sidebar is of mal, zoe, and jayne just before the shootout in that very scene.

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Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by Volk564:
Sidenote - as I'm typing this, the screenshot on the left sidebar is of mal, zoe, and jayne just before the shootout in that very scene.



Don't you just love those little flashes of synchronicity?

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:57 PM

The one that intrigues me is the Jayne's hat/straw one from The Message. I know Alan Tudyk says it's an error in the commentary but I'm not so sure it is. Here's why:

1. Jayne gets hat in box of packing. Puts it on with strands of packing still attached.
2. We see Jayne again in cargo bay with no straw packing on hat (can't remember the exact context, but there is definitely no straw).
3. The crew does their little search and Jayne has straw on his hat again.

This is easily explained (not even fanwanked) because Jayne is assigned to search through the crate that Tracy comes in. A crate filled with straw packing. Right? Or am I completely addled. I'm gonna have to watch again to make sure, but I really don't think there is an error at all.

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Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by RugBug:
This is easily explained (not even fanwanked) because Jayne is assigned to search through the crate that Tracy comes in. A crate filled with straw packing. Right? Or am I completely addled. I'm gonna have to watch again to make sure, but I really don't think there is an error at all.



I'm pretty sure you have it right.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Saturday, May 20, 2006 2:59 PM

Actually in the commentary, Jewel and Alan have a lot of fun pointing out the continuity errors with the straw.



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Saturday, May 20, 2006 3:39 PM

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Originally posted by tealcandtrip:
Actually in the commentary, Jewel and Alan have a lot of fun pointing out the continuity errors with the straw.



Well Alan does at any rate but a carefull viewing of the scenes in question (as provided upthread) show that there really is no error. When the straw shows up after we saw it had been removed Jayne had just finished tearing apart a crate full of straw - a reasonable explanation for the straw on the hat to reapear.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Monday, May 22, 2006 7:03 PM

There's a scene in "Serenity" that bugs me to no end. It's when we see the ship descending down into some tunnel when they're landing on Haven. The next scene is the ramp lowering and we see Book and it's night -- torches going, etc. Then Mal and Book have their talk about faith and god. Then the next scene is daylight and the crew is walking up and greeting people, hugs, etc. like they didn't do all this at night when they first landed?

Then at the end, when they're repairing serenity, it sure looks like we see both engines on the ship as the crane thingy swings the replacement engine into view.


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