The preteen-sex-for-food program

POSTED BY: Khyron
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 9, 2006 18:46
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KHYRON

Tuesday, May 9, 2006 1:27 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Seriously, these abberations are relatively small in number when one considers the total percentage of possible offenders.

Well, we're not talking about general paedophilia here. This seems to be fairly common problem ("The report said that all of the respondents clearly stated that more than half of the girls in their locations were affected.") that's only been made public recently. What's especially shocking here is the blatant abuse of power by the aid workers involved, seemingly without fear of any repercussions.

Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, May 9, 2006 1:33 AM

Sorry, I meant, like in Global percentages. Certainly locally, this is a very big problem.

Chrisisall

KHYRON

Tuesday, May 9, 2006 2:28 AM

HKCavalier, as always your post was thought-provoking, and I'm sorry to hear about what your parents did to you.

Here's something that's downright unsettling (from Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophile):

Extent of occurrence

The extent to which pedophilia occurs is not known with any certainty. Some studies have concluded that at least a quarter of all adult men may have some feelings of sexual arousal in connection with children. A study by Hall et al. of Kent State University, for example, found that 32.5% of their sample — consisting of eighty adult males — exhibited sexual arousal to pedophilic stimuli that equaled or exceeded their arousal to the adult stimuli. Further studies indicate that even men erotically fixated on adult females are generally prone to react sexually when exposed to nude female children.

In 1989 Briere and Runtz conducted a study on 193 male undergraduate students concerning pedophilia. Of the sample, 21% acknowledged sexual attraction to some small children; 9% reported sexual fantasies involving children; 5% admitted masturbating to these fantasies; and 7% conceded some probability of actually having sex with a child if they could avoid detection and punishment.

I think the last sentence is probably why the problem is prevalent among aid workers, they know it's much easier for them to avoid detection and punishment doing the work they do.

Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.

ANTHONYT

Tuesday, May 9, 2006 2:33 AM

I wonder what the age of consent is in Liberia?

It can't be twelve, can it? Surely it's got to be closer to eighteen. In which case there must be a law forbidding this, right?

The troubling thing is that the aid organizations are charged with this, and I would tend to believe that their job is to provide the food without cohersion to the recipient. The idea that aid workers or teachers may be taking advantage of their position and power to seduce underage girls is abhorrent to me. (sp?)

On the flip side, I would not feel at all bad about any random adult doing this to another adult. Because then it's just prostitution.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

KHYRON

Tuesday, May 9, 2006 2:43 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
On the flip side, I would not feel at all bad about any random adult doing this to another adult. Because then it's just prostitution.

That seems to contradict this:

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
The troubling thing is that the aid organizations are charged with this, and I would tend to believe that their job is to provide the food without cohersion to the recipient.

But forced prostitution is another matter. Although I'm totally opposed to it, I'm hardly as disgusted by the thought of it as the thought of what's happening to non-adult females.

Here's the link to the original report from Save the Children: http://www.savethechildren.org.uk/scuk/jsp/resources/details.jsp?id=41
68&group=resources§ion=news&subsection=details

Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.

ANTHONYT

Tuesday, May 9, 2006 3:03 AM

I'll put it another way.

1) No adult should be having sexual relations with a child.

2) No adult should be using a position of authority or power over another adult in order to demand sexual favors. (i.e. a teacher, an aid worker, an employer.)

However, sex-for-food and sex-for-rent and sex-for-pretty-bauble is a pretty well established international trade, both as official prostitution (sex-for-money-which-can-buy-food-or-rent-or-bauble) and as informal prostitution (if-you-buy-me-lobster-and-pay-for-my-apartment-I-will-have-sex-with-you.)

The price of a prostitute will obviously be much lower in downtrodden third world countries, and an offer of Triscuits and a dry place to sleep for the night might do the trick. If it is between consenting adults, that's their business.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, May 9, 2006 6:46 PM

Sadly, this is not as uncommon as you would think or hope, southeast asia has been downright notorious for this kind of thing, and even with the arrest of Gary Glitter and ECPAT's best efforts, it's still a mess.

We did, however, get our displeasure across enough for Thailand to take notice - forget the state dept, and the U.N. won't do jack, and even if they did they would not ask us, one of only TWO countries on the planet to not sign the UN Convention on the rights of children... but why ask the state to stand up, when you can ?

Google the phrase "don't buy thai" and you'll see previous efforts, which can easily be duplicated if only you can get enough people to give a damn.

Believe me, for a while there we downright economically strangled Thailand in retaliation for this, and having done that, even the mere threat of repeating that action could carry some weight if one can present it to them in a logical, reasonable fashion.

-Frem

PS - side note, keep Dyncorp and Haliburton OUT of these places, and you cut off a lot of the market for such trade, both companies and their subsidaries have a long history of being 'prime consumers' of this business.

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