Defense of Home

POSTED BY: StillFlyin
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 07:32
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My experience -

Having been burgled, stalked and attacked on more than one occasion, I have to say it makes a difference how big, how many, and whether or not they're armed; and whether or not you have other options.

The time I was assaulted (repeatedly punched and attempted to be shoved to the ground), since there was only one person roughly my size and unarmed, I was pretty comfortable without a weapon. I simply stood my ground until the attacker got frustrated and ran off.

In two other instances I was glad that a third person showed up (on deserted city streets at night) and caused the stalker to move off. Both stalkers were bigger and had cars while I was on foot. Numerous times I've been on foot and evaded stalkers in cars who were closely following me by ducking into yards and other private property (again on deserted streets where there were no other cars or people around).

During a home invasion I was glad I had access to a gun (the person never entered the room so it never became a confrontation.)

And I've come home to find it was broken into on more than one occasion. I yelled into the house that I would be back in 20 minutes, so get out. Then I went to the neighbors and called the police.

So, no, I don't feel the need to be armed to the teeth and ready to shoot as an all-occasion response. It depends on situation and available options.



Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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ChrisIsAll,
"There is the notion that if you don't use your weapon, someone else will..."

That's what I've been taught. If you wave a gun around you must assume that if the other person has a gun, they will shoot you. Therefore, you must shoot first rather than take the chance that you've targeted yourself for gunfire.


Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Originally posted by rue:
ChrisIsAll,
"There is the notion that if you don't use your weapon, someone else will..."

That's what I've been taught. If you wave a gun around you must assume that if the other person has a gun, they will shoot you. Therefore, you must shoot first rather than take the chance that you've targeted yourself for gunfire.

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Actually, I was alluding to the possibility that pulling a gun and taking the time to threaten someone is giving them that half-second they need to disarm you (should they be adept at such actions) and shoot you with your own weapon...

But, what you said, too.

Chrisisall, mugged three times, lost only once ('cause the first time I was twelve!!!)

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I am a police office here in Arkansas. We have the conceal permit law and believe me, people here do carry weapons. And they use them. The news here is carrying story about a person who broke into a home and was shot by the home owner. The home owner was in the right. Maybe not in every state but here its legal.

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ChrisIsAll,

PS That's the problem with pulling out a gun. You may escalate the danger rather than lower it.

To get back to the time I was being pounded on: the reason I didn't actively fight back (though I knew how) was b/c the person attacking me seemed half-hearted. Their goal seemed more to intimidate me into giving up. If I had amped it up to serious damage, I had the sense I would then be fighting for my life. You have to use your judgement.

Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Originally posted by rue:
If I had amped it up to serious damage, then I had the sense I would been fighting for my life. You have to use your judgement.

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Avoid rather than check, check rather than hurt, hurt rather than maim, maim rather than kill, for all life is sacred, nor can any be replaced.

I get that. Actually, for all my tough talk, I believe that. I never hit an attacker even one more time than I had to to end the fight (not that there were so many). In one confrontation, I took a blow, and returned none. That act of non-agression ended the confrontation, and forgive the sin, I'm especially proud of that.


Chrisisall

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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:

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PIRATENEWS SAID:

"Read the communist Manifesto to see that victim dissarmament zones and abolition of the death penalty are designed to ESCALATE violence"

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O.K. so I've got a copy of the Communist Manifesto right in front of me now (which you must have read to have made that statement right? So don't tell me I'm a commie for having one).
Kindly point out to me the passage to which the above statement refers (just so you can prove yourself right). It must be in there otherwise you would'nt have said it right?

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I realize you have never heard of Google, so I'll do your homework for you, you lazy illiterate Commie. Commie 4th Plank bans guns, since all citizens are classified as terrorists, slaves, "rebels".

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"Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels."
-Communist Manifesto, 4th Plank
(Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).)
ARE Americans practicing Communism?
www.libertyzone.com/Communist-Manifesto-Planks.html

"Gentlemen, comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about glasnost’ (Ed. Note: "openness") and perestroika (Ed. Note: "restructuring") and democracy in the coming years. These are primarily for outward consumption. There will be NO significant internal changes in the Soviet Union [i.e., Russia], other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to DISARM the Americans and let them fall asleep.
-Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev (former KGB chief and Soviet leader arrested for stealing $3.5-Billion; statement made in a speech to the Soviet Politburo in November 1987)

(Ed. Note: Gorbachev (former KGB) was "promoted" from being head of the Soviet Union to being a high-paid consultant on the dismantling of U.S. military bases. Two other former KGB/FSB (the Soviet/Russian secret police) chiefs (Yevgeny Primakov and General Karpov) are now in the USA as high-paid consultants to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. What’s wrong with this picture?)

"One of the basic conditions for the victory of socialism is…the disarming of the bourgeoisie (the middle class)."
–Vladimir I. Lenin (1870-1924; Russian revolutionary; leader of the Bolsheviks Communists; former premier of the USSR)

"I am one who believes that as a first step the U.S. should move expeditiously to disarm the civilian population, other than police and security officers, of all handguns, pistols and revolvers…no one should have a right to anonymous ownership or use of a gun."
-Professor Dean Morris, former Director of the Law Enforcement Assistance Administration (L.E.A.A.)

"The manufacture of armaments would be prohibited except for those of agreed types and quantities to be used by the U.N. Peace Force and those required to maintain internal order. All other armaments would be destroyed or converted to peaceful purposes."
-Excerpt from State Department Paper 7277

"How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: what would things have been like IF every police operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been UNCERTAIN whether he would return alive? …IF during periods of mass arrests people had NOT simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they HAD NOTHING TO LOSE and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? ...the organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers…and not withstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt."
–Major Alexander Isayevich Solzhenitsyn (Russian author & Nobel Prize recipie

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