Defense of Home
POSTED BY: StillFlyin
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 07:32
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Quote:That which we call a lop sau by any other name, would still intercept as well.
Originally posted by citizen:
Ahh I see. Yeah I know those sequences. Basis for part of the Sum Chein, don't know if you have that in your style?
Chrisisall, on the Gung-Fu Home Defense Forum
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I'm not sure where I said I had two guns, or that I would leap in like Yosemite Sam and blaze away, filling the air with lead. If you can find any of my statements that demonstrate a lack of caution or care, I'd appreciate it. What I HAVE said is that I'd rather have a gun than not have one, and that if I feel threatened, I'd like to be able to use lethal force in my defense without being brought up on charges. I am a very safe and sane gun user, thank you very much, and so please leave your stereotypes at home. If I was RAMBO, perhaps I'd feel better about taking chances with my life. I am Anthony Toledo, and not being an invulnerable Action Hero, I will take any actions necessary to defend my life, without a long meditative session on the relative strengths between my attacker and myself.
I'm saying that one should exhaust other options before attempting to confront a home intruder, you’re arguing with me and indeed going on like you believe your first action should be to run down stairs gun in hand and confront the intruder.
It's not my stereotypes at all, it's what you said. Jump in both feet to an armed conflict before seeing if you can escape without a confrontation if you wish, that's your decision. Very possibly your funeral as well.
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I guess I could hope a gunman won't shoot me, won't hit me, or won't wound me seriously. But then, that's the case if I'm armed, too. The difference is, there's a chance I will stop him with MY gun, and that's one more option for survival. Because, you know, if he's shooting at me, and I have no weapon, I've got Nada.
No one can shoot punch or recite Vogon poetry to you if your NOT THERE. But since you think escape (despite the fact you can still take your firearm with you if you wish) is 'stupid' but confronting multiple armed people single handedly is the smart thing to do this isn't likely.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I try to ignore PN. Arguing only encourages him.
That's my strategy too. It's also the same strategy I use for two or three other people on the board, since I know any discussion will be a waste of my time.
Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
That which we call a lop sau by any other name, would still intercept as well.
The Sam Chien is a form of the Tiger Crane style that contains many basic movements:
http://www.namyang1954.com/forms.html
Oh and if your interested the website for my class is here:
http://www.namyang.co.uk
There's a quick example of the Sam Chien on the video here:
http://www.namyang.co.uk/martial-arts/kung-fu/shaolin-kung-fu.php
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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Well, I'm not uncompromising there, Citizen. I won't seek a confrontation where one is unnecessary. To that degree, I can agree with you.
IF I am alone at home, and a weapon was available, I would consider these alternative options:
1) Grab my gun and, if there is an exit nearby, take the exit while armed.
2) Grab my gun and, if there is a lockable door in my room, lock the door and crouch behind a bed/piece of furniture. Then, if a phone is available, call the Cops while covering the door.
However, if I am NOT alone at home, neither of these options would be palatable. It is too difficult to ensure the safe evacuation of family members in other rooms AND be ready to make a defense. If there is anyone else's life at stake, my best bet is to find a bottleneck between the invader and my family (such as a hallway) and make a stand. Even if I am killed by the invader, it is unlikely he would continue to calmly ransack the house after engaging in a shootout. Result: Family lives.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Quote:Very cool, thanks. Lots of similarities to my Wing Chun and Drunken and Praying Mantis styles. Silk and Iron, you know...
Originally posted by citizen:
There's a quick example of the Sam Chien on the video here:
http://www.namyang.co.uk/martial-arts/kung-fu/shaolin-kung-fu.php
Isn't that Jackie's main thing, along with Snake?
We need a whole thread Chrisisall
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"No one can shoot punch or recite Vogon poetry to you if your NOT THERE. But since you think escape (despite the fact you can still take your firearm with you if you wish) is 'stupid' but confronting multiple armed people single handedly is the smart thing to do this isn't likely."
By the way... Multiple Armed People? Did this go from a home invasion to a Ninja Death Squad? I'll DEFINITELY need my firearm now. Or just Chrisisall and his Kung Fu.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Quote:Although I DO own a sword, nowadays I can only dodge bullets if they come real slow.
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I'll DEFINITELY need my firearm now. Or just Chrisisall and his Kung Fu.
Run Luke, run Chrisisall
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If you really think that it's impossible to escape in anyway. I think if there are people in the house it's unlikely anyone will come up stairs unless they were specifically looking for you.
My point all along was avoiding a confrontation if possible and using minimal force in defence of one's own life if a confrontation is unavoidable. If they are armed then that may be lethal. If their one of your mates who got pissed up on Grandpa's old cough mixture and decided to break into your house to scare you for a laugh I doubt that's the case.
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By the way... Multiple Armed People? Did this go from a home invasion to a Ninja Death Squad? I'll DEFINITELY need my firearm now. Or just Chrisisall and his Kung Fu.
Yes. It's rare to find people breaking into a house alone, especially if it's occupied and the scenarios thrown at me have at least stated more than one assailant or hinted it. It's not coming from nowhere.
Also just because there's two or three of them doesn't suddenly mean your house has been invaded by 'Ninja Death Squads' Chechen Rebels or Mail Order Russian Brides
.More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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Though I may come across as pacifist, I'm not a naive flower child. I make sure the doors and windows are locked at all times. Tho the house is in a good neighborhood, I always scope it out before entering, and check the doors and windows after I get in. (I've come home to a broken-into home more than once.)
The biggest potential problem is at night. As luck would have it, all the bedroom doors open up off the same hall. At night I put a motion sensor on either end of the hall facing out (which additionally detects fire). Each bedroom has another exit besides the door (which is also handy in case of fire). And there are phones literally at hand at all times.
If it were a more dangerous neighborhood, I would probably get a gun (short barrel shotgun, which I've been told is the best gun for home defense).
But as far as I'm concerned, the house can be stripped bare or burn to the ground, as long as no one is threatened or hurt.
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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