Male and Female Imponderables
POSTED BY: Tristan
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 15:29
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First, I like wearing clothes like that because I feel good in them, and I find them more comfortable than clothes that are baggy (but that's just me). Also, if you compare modern women's clothing to clothing of other eras (corsets, hoop skirts, bustles, ect.) then modern clothes are more comfortable than what were worn in the past.
What do you mean you "feel good" in them? Placing that phrase as a prelude to them being more comfortable (which I also find almost impossible to believe, but, ok.) would suggest that you meant "feeling good" in them was different than them being comfortable. So what makes you "feel good" in them?
I believe this is the core of the issue, because whether or not females wish to admit it, they like the attention it gets them. Of course, when you have guys who would get into a car accident just to get a second glance at you, I'm sure it does wonders for your ego. But assuming this is the case (and I AM assuming that) I have to ask, are you unable to draw a distinction between positive attention and negative attention? It's like those trouble makers in high school and middle school environments, not caring if they get detention as long as they turn heads. Well guess what the negative side to wearing those clothes is? A lot, if not most, guys take it as a sign that you're "open for business" so to speak. Oh sure, just say no, right? There's a reason I can't turn on the freggin radio or TV any day of the week and NOT hear about some girl getting raped, and this is one of those reasons.
Modesty is a far greater virtue than being aesthetically pleasing.
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Chrismoorehead:
Wearing form fitting clothing and dressing like a whore are two very different things. And it is incredibly insensitive to say that women invite being raped by how they dress. Have you ever known a rape victim? Do you know what happens to their spirit and their psyche when something like that happens to them? And do you have any idea how difficult it is to get them past the idea that it was their fault? Any girl I have ever known that got raped was not dressed in any particular way, nor casting any lures. Rape is, as far as I'm concerned, a by-product of testosterone poisoning, it is one of the most hideous things that happens in our world, and it has been happening for hundreds if not thousands of years! A low-cut top or tight pair of jeans have nothing to do with being attacked. Do you think they had those centuries ago? Do you think rapists really select their victims that way? Don't ever, ever say that a woman invites being raped again! Rape is no one's fault but the attackers themselves, it is inexcusible, and I will bring the wrath of Vera down on anyone who says otherwise!
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Bad boys:
Love 'em. This is frankly because, in my limited experience, they are better in bed. I don't need a man to support me or be a father to my children. I can take care of fixin' things or have the means to pay to have them fixed. So they only thing I need a man for is sex. Nice guys are just too nice for the kind of sex I like - even when I tell them exactly what I want. (Please, don't e-mail me any offers - I'm happy with what I have right now!)
If nothing, at least you're honest. That aside... what the hell? People should never be this comfortable with sex. You know what sex is akin to? Killing. You do them both for the propagation of the species and continuation of your line. It is despicable that anyone is comfortable with this.
Sometime in the future, this country will crumble like every country before it. Not a doomsday prophecy, just a fact, no government last forever. When it does, people who over-indulge will DIE OUT. You will watch your families and loved ones die in front of you and then you will follow because you do not take the time to understand and appreciate life on a thinner line, because you lack the discipline necessary to survive... ok, I know this is seeming really irrelevant right now, so I'll try to sum it up. Why is it that every time a group of individuals endures the shittiest times known to man and drag their people through the dirt and mud to found a new place and new hope for them that only a couple of generations afterwards their own bloodlines FORGET THE LESSONS OF THEIR FOREFATHERS!? Sex, food, shelter, these things are PRIVILAGES that were paid for in blood, and yet, people selfishly abuse them. You wait and see, you have the freedom to do whatever the hell you want and I don't even think that you shouldn't be allowed to, but the more freedom you use, the higher the price is to obtain it, and one day that debt will be paid, in YOUR blood, or maybe YOUR CHILDRENS blood.
I'm spent.
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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:Quote:
If nothing, at least you're honest. That aside... what the hell? People should never be this comfortable with sex. You know what sex is akin to? Killing. You do them both for the propagation of the species and continuation of your line. It is despicable that anyone is comfortable with this.
I feel so sorry for you. I really, really feel bad for anyone who has this view of sex. It pains me to know how many people won't know real pleasure in their lives. Akin to killing? See, that's despicable. How could the physical act of love be akin to killing? How could anything so deeply spiritual be anything but beautiful? Why shouldn't we be comfortable with that? Seriously. Most of the problems I have with the world today is how very uptight and puritanical it is. Not to say that sex shouldn't be respected, but I don't think it should be hidden away and taboo either, as it's natural.
And it's a great stress reliever if you let yourself enjoy it. You should try that sometime.
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Do I know any rape victims? One too many, I'm afraid, to the point I really believe at least 1/10th of women who claim to be raped these days are lying.
Now, on to the meat an potatoes. In true female fashion, you completely took what I said out of context by letting your emotions speak instead of your brain (big surprise there...). Now, for the TRUE meaning, I do not believe that anyone "deserves" to be raped or that they "invite" rape. That being the ideal, here's the reality: Men DO rape, and they DO rape selectively. More on that in a minute. IN response to the reality of the situation, you have a choice: Accept it, and react accordingly, or ignore it and be at greater risk for the consequences.
Now, back to the selective raping issue. Yes, if you're showing more skin, or more curvature, men are more attracted to you. Admit it, that's the reason you do it in the first place. Now, a man who would rape and a man who wouldn't are two different creatures, IE: If he's the type that would rape a woman, he's going to do it given the opportunity and situation, if he's not, then no opportunity presented could make him. What makes women more of a likely target for the former is things that make them stand out. Skin, tight clothes, etc., and of course to varying degrees. Trust me, this is how the mind of a man works. Tattoo on the lower back? They call it the "tramp stamp". Mouth piercing? "Enter Here" sign. I don't LIKE these things anymore than you, but it is the sad condition of our reality.
Now, I'm not saying you "shouldn't" do these things, but if you want to be smart.. well, hey, it's up to you. Me? I carry first aid supplies 24/7, 25 ft of 550 parachute cord, a lighter, Leatherman multi-tool, I got a gas mask in the back seat of my car... call me paranoid. I just don't see the sense in not being prepared and in CHOOSING to remain ignorant of your surroundings.
Have you ever:
Used your teeth as wire strippers?
Given yourself stitches?
Made improvised munitions with no base supplies?
Pissed in a canteen?
Gone a month without bathing?
If so, you MIGHT just be a !HOOAH MOTHERF*CKER!
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Originally posted by EmmaRigby:
Hhhm! Okay, Is the old wive's tale about the relationship between the size of a guy's feet and his penis really true? Ditto for the one about the size of his nose? 'Cos that would be really handy advertisement (not that these things matter of course)
Okay - I know this was posted a while ago but I only just read it...
I pride myself on my role as "internet researcher extraordinaire" and in such guise would like it noted that it's taken me 30 seconds to find this (a personal best - woo hoo)!
http://www.snopes.com/risque/penile/size.htm
I LOVE that someone took the time to resolve this one “scientifically” – can you get a grant for that?
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What the hell?
Two things...first, speaking as someone that has been there: clothes have nothing to do with rape. It's a violent assault. It has nothing to do with sex. It's all about power.
Secondly, we can damn well have sex with whomever, whenever, however often we want. Do I think we as a society take sex too casually? Yes. Do i think it should be regulated to only procreation? No. There is a respectable medium in there.
back on topic...Men, why do you always rent the 'Uncut Version' of a move? It's not the director's cut or a some artsy re-edit...it's just tits and ass. Does it rally make the movie better?
You see? She's not a junkie or mentally ill, she's gifted!--Momma Roxy
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Secondly, we can damn well have sex with whomever, whenever, however often we want. Do I think we as a society take sex too casually? Yes. Do i think it should be regulated to only procreation? No. There is a respectable medium in there.
I don't ever recall saying that you couldn't, or that I thought you shouldn't. In fact, I recall implying the opposite, that these things are your rights and freedoms. The problem is that ovindulgence in them... well, scroll up. I wouldn't even vote against these things being "legal" because I think they're matters of SELF CONTROL. You don't NEED to have it, but I think you're going to lead the country into oblivion without it. Thanks for that, by the way.
As to the rape being a "violent crime" thing... my gosh, I remember hearing Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew blast this issue on Loveline. "Raping someone is just like if I hit you in the back of the head.. and them cummed.". Doesn't make sense, does it? If they were JUST looking for control, they'd find other ways of exerting it, but a man raping a woman has a hard on for a reason. I'm not saying the element of control isn't there, but to suggest that the act is totally devoid of sexual impulsion is just ignorant.
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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
Do I know any rape victims? One too many, I'm afraid, to the point I really believe at least 1/10th of women who claim to be raped these days are lying.
Now, on to the meat an potatoes. In true female fashion, you completely took what I said out of context by letting your emotions speak instead of your brain (big surprise there...). Now, for the TRUE meaning, I do not believe that anyone "deserves" to be raped or that they "invite" rape. That being the ideal, here's the reality: Men DO rape, and they DO rape selectively. More on that in a minute. IN response to the reality of the situation, you have a choice: Accept it, and react accordingly, or ignore it and be at greater risk for the consequences.
Now, back to the selective raping issue. Yes, if you're showing more skin, or more curvature, men are more attracted to you. Admit it, that's the reason you do it in the first place. Now, a man who would rape and a man who wouldn't are two different creatures, IE: If he's the type that would rape a woman, he's going to do it given the opportunity and situation, if he's not, then no opportunity presented could make him. What makes women more of a likely target for the former is things that make them stand out. Skin, tight clothes, etc., and of course to varying degrees. Trust me, this is how the mind of a man works. Tattoo on the lower back? They call it the "tramp stamp". Mouth piercing? "Enter Here" sign. I don't LIKE these things anymore than you, but it is the sad condition of our reality.
You are all kinds of wrong for all kinds of reasons. You are not only showing the red flags of a true sexist, you are also speaking from a place of ignorance.
1) There is a vast percentage of women who never admit to being raped, because they think it is their fault. How do I know? The phrase "I've never told anyone this before" is a pretty big hint. Saying that you don't believe they're all telling the truth speaks of your own insensitivity and also counters your own statement about accepting reality and acting accordingly.
2) Women of all shapes, sizes, and dress codes are raped. Every day. It's brushed off or ignored far too often. Too many people say it's because of this that or the other, be it how a woman was dressed or the fact that she went to a bar. It is not a topic that should be treated that way. It is not only a thing driven by lust, but power. More power than anything else. If it was only lusting after the body it might be simpler than it is, but it's also lust for power and domination, and any victim will do.
3) Yes, I'm going to respond from emotions on an emotional topic. But I also have a brain and I have applied it to this situation because it is emotional for me. I have seen too many scars to ignore it, and I think it should stop, therefore I apply my brain. Don't belittle me for having emotions about something you're obviously cold about.
4) It has been proven that what makes women likely targets is how they behave. Women who act more timid, slouch, carry themselves like victims, they are the ones most likely to be attacked. The nature of the attack doesn't matter; from muggers to rapists, they are all predators and they look for weak prey. A pierced, tattooed, sexy woman wearing nothing but leather probably won't draw the average attacker if she's also riding a motorcycle and wearing brass knuckles. She's not an easy mark. A woman wearing a sweater and no makeup who takes tiny little steps, slouches, and looks around her constantly in fear is more likely to be attacked.
Caution is of course advisable. Don't take drinks from strangers, don't go home with strangers, don't walk down dark alleys at night, etc. A lot of avoiding attack is just fon du la, the art of not being there. If you put yourself in a bad situation, bad things might happen. Doesn't matter what you're wearing. Being too timid and modest can get you into more trouble that being attractive.
I like to think I'm attractive, and I have no problems with my bod
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Originally posted by wildigstart:
What the hell?
Two things...first, speaking as someone that has been there: clothes have nothing to do with rape. It's a violent assault. It has nothing to do with sex. It's all about power.
Secondly, we can damn well have sex with whomever, whenever, however often we want. Do I think we as a society take sex too casually? Yes. Do i think it should be regulated to only procreation? No. There is a respectable medium in there.
Yes, what she said.
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One summer.
One mission.
One legion of Browncoats.
Starting June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.
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