S6- Seeing Red..Holly CRAP, Batman, I just noticed something! (spoilery)
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, June 15, 2006 00:14
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Quote:Relationships are a road, not a destination. Been with my wife 22 years now; I'm amongst the few and lucky, it seems.
Originally posted by msckaren:
None of my relationships have ended "happily every after", have yours?
One woman Chrisisall
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Quote:Jus' being silly as if I've only just noticed.
Originally posted by citizen:
Joss is a sadist.
I'm sorry, do you have a point?
Lots of
's on this here thread...Chrisisallgonna beat Joss up if he kills Wonder Woman
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Wonder Woman falls in love with superman, who is impaled on a shaft of kryptonite by Lex Leaver. She goes into a fit of rage, murdering Lex Leaver, before going on the run from the police.
One officer catches up with her, but instead of turning her in they fall in love.
She kills him accidentally in a fit of passion.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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...no.....No....NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
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Quote:
Originally posted by platinummongoose:
I think the Joss quote was something like "Everyone wants people to be happy, so in every episode I have to remind them that I don't like people. Then Mal shoots someone. Someone we like. And their puppy."
And you think that S6 of Buffy was proof of that?
Let's review, shall we? Not season-by-season, but relationship-by-relationship:
Buffy/Angel--really shouldn't start with these two. They define tragic love, right?
Buffy/Spike--relationship born out of depression, ending in attempted rape
Buffy/Riley--Riley left her for the MILITARY
Xander/Buffy--never got past the Xander-daydream stage
Xander/Willow--ruined more relationships than it helped
Xander/Cordy--see Xander/Willow
Willow/Oz--see Xander/Willow, then Oz leaves later thanks to Veruca
Willow/Tara--Tara is murdered just after they reconcile
Xander/Anya--left Anya at the alter, then Anya dies in the finale
Xander/Faith--one night stand
Buffy/Parker--let's not go there, ok?
Angel/Cordy--she sleeps with his son, becomes big bad, goes comatose, dies, and transcends or something
Cordy/Doyle--Doyle sacrifices himself for the greater good
Gunn/Fred--Angelus manipulation causes breakup (possibly the healthiest breakup on the show)
Fred/Wesley--together for less than ONE EPISODE before Fred is killed and subsequently possessed by Illyria
Mal/Inara--those two really need a swift kick in the hormones.
Zoe/Wash--well... you know.
Ok, so to be fair, here are the relationships that succeeded:
Simon/Kaylee
Willow/Kennedy
Faith/Wood (however long that'll last, knowing Faith)
Seventeen... to three. The vote is in: Joss doesn't like it when people have happy endings.
(end rant)
Well Done!! I agree with everything that you said, except I didn't think Joss should have put Willow and Kennedy together in the first place. Kennedy was annoying. Plus it seemed rushed, kinda forced upon Willow's character to have a somewhat happy ending considering what she went through in season 6 and Buffy & Xander losing both Spike and Anya in the finale. It's almost like he had to have at least one main character still in a happy relationship by the end.
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As msckaren said, though, we haven't seen what happens after the shows/movie ends. We don't know if Willow and Kennedy stay together, or if Fred finds her way through the Illyria persona, or if Simon and Kaylee work out (or survive, knowing Joss--note main thread topic).
We can hope, though. We can hope whatever we want. Personally, I always have been pro-Xander/Willow, so I couldn't care less about Kennedy. Buffy and Angel will likely end up together one way or another, 'cause that's what the fans inevitably want, I think.
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Joss doesn't seem that invested in Buffy/Angel himself. In his commentary for Chosen he kind of hinted that Buffy was really blowing him off but was trying to be nice about it. The whole Buffy/Angel thing is apparently very profitable for 20th Century FOX so I don't think he could ever take away that hope for good, but my feeling is that in Joss's own mind, Buffy hasn't met her real tru luv 4-eva. Hell, the series ended when Buffy was 23...she's not a spinster yet! Although her settling down with a 'normal' human is never gonna happen, I think that one is pretty clear.
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Quote:
Originally posted by amyel:
Although her settling down with a 'normal' human is never gonna happen, I think that one is pretty clear.
Way I see it, Reilly will break up with that roadie bimbo he's with and get back with Buffy.
It is a dream I have Chrisisall
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Joss the modern mysanthropist...
Actually if anything this side of Joss is maybe too prevalent in his work. There was a thread a while back about relationships and how Joss deals with them and all in all they become too predictable and conversely detrimental to the intent.
So you start to not care about a relationship forming because you just know it'll turn out badly.
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Quote:Yeah, interesting point.
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
So you start to not care about a relationship forming because you just know it'll turn out badly.
But that's why I can hope for Buffy and Riley, the door hasn't been entirely closed on that one (He and Buffy still live
).On a blasphemous note: A part of me is fine with no more Serenity movies, if that's the case; I kinda like the thought of Kaylee and Simon and Mal and Inara living to have long relationships. Don't get me wrong, I WANT more movies, but if they don't get made, not seeing more relationships get cut off or fail will be my small consolation prize...
Don't tell anyone I said that Chrisisall
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