Jayne's first betrayal

POSTED BY: Dantien
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DANTIEN

Monday, April 24, 2006 1:56 PM

Hi,
Just want to check, did Jayne give the knife to the Alliance mole in the pilot episode?

THUNDER

Monday, April 24, 2006 2:14 PM

No at the end Mal asked if the mole tried to buy him off & Jayne said the money was'nt enough. If it had been Jayne would have shoot Mal when he was dealing with patience in the desert.

MILFORD

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:50 AM

I'm not convinced. I don't think he did, but with Jayne you never can tell for sure. That one defines shifty.

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CAUSAL

Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:54 PM

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Originally posted by milford:
I'm not convinced. I don't think he did, but with Jayne you never can tell for sure. That one defines shifty.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, and I'll get flamed once more: Jayne was never meant to be the mercenary-with-the-heart-of-gold that people seem to think he is. Milford's right--Jayne defines shifty. Had the series gone on, I bet dollars to donuts the money would have been good enough just in time for season finale cliff hanger. Face it--Jayne's a bad guy. Heck, he wears a hat!

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BUK

Friday, April 28, 2006 10:24 PM

Jayne wants to be incharge but his life runs on how much hes getting paid.

ZISKER

Saturday, April 29, 2006 11:51 PM

I think it was left ambiguous intentionally. But my money is on "He gave it to the Fed"

And Casual - you're dead on. But which season? My money would be on two or three . . .

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MILFORD

Tuesday, May 2, 2006 5:16 PM

Dead on, Causal. You know Jayne won't change his stripes. He's loveable, he's funny, and he seems dumb. And that's why Joss would have him drop the others like a bad habit. Remember the scene in Serenity with Jayne after his blow-up with Mal. He clearly comes to a choice and goes after River. Now, does the Miranda situation change things? I think so. But in the Firefly world that wasn't, the seasons that we missed ( you FOX!), you know he would have turned on each one of them. Joss loves to do that. Remember Wesley on Angel and Willow on Buffy?

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CAUSAL

Tuesday, May 2, 2006 5:22 PM

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Originally posted by Zisker:
And Casual - you're dead on. But which season? My money would be on two or three . . .

I think season two finale. He'd have been the first of things to come. First Jayne betrays. A season or two later Wash dies. A little after that (in my Firefly-that-wasn't fantasy) we'd've had a two-parter in which Book died and his background was finally revealed. But the folks that think Joss would have kept the 'verse static are nuts.

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CAUSAL

Tuesday, May 2, 2006 5:29 PM

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Originally posted by milford:
Dead on, Causal. You know Jayne won't change his stripes. He's loveable, he's funny, and he seems dumb. And that's why Joss would have him drop the others like a bad habit. Remember the scene in Serenity with Jayne after his blow-up with Mal. He clearly comes to a choice and goes after River.

Exactly! And don't forget, in the final episode of the series, OiS, River does not trust Jayne. She uses everyone else (but Book, interestingly) in her plot against Early, but even though Jayne could be easily wakened, she lets him snooze right through the fight. I think Joss would have continued to use little things like that to build up Jayne's bad-ness, while lulling us all into a false sense of security until BANG! All of the sudden, Jayne turns. Hell, he was about to turn right there in Serenity. And you know it wasn't out of concern for the well-being of the crew.

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ZISKER

Tuesday, May 2, 2006 6:34 PM

See, I lean more toward three simply because I recall somewhere Joss saying that Serenity was Season one and two - unless "we're goin' for a nice shuttle ride" became a three episode arc ending with Jayne not dying, but getting booted of the ship.

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