Battlestar Gallactica...More realistic than anything you have seen

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DRAKON

Saturday, December 13, 2003 8:34 AM

One last thing about Battlestar Galactica:

Near the end, where Baltar is talking to Number 6/Harvey, she askes him which side is he on.

"I am not on anyone's side!" Baltar exclaims.

Zap Brannigan was right. Its another example of the treachery carried out by Neutrals.

What makes a man turn Neutral, Kip?

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

LUIGIFREAK

Saturday, December 13, 2003 4:07 PM

I'm glad to see so many of you enjoyed this show as much as I did, I was blown away by how 'real' the characters seemed. Ronald D Moore actually managed to get you to really care about the characters in the very first episode, the last show that I remember doing that was our beloved Firefly

And let's face it, this show certainly owes alot to Firefly. I wonder what Joss thinks of it?

It's amazing what all these ex-startrek writers/producers can do without the constricting 'rules' of trek.

VETERAN

Monday, December 15, 2003 12:42 AM

luigifreak wrote:

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It's amazing what all these ex-startrek writers/producers can do without the constricting 'rules' of trek.

I know that this was supposed to be true, but I've always found the continuity aspect of 'Trek' to be poor if not sometimes totally lacking.

HARLOCK

Monday, December 15, 2003 2:42 AM

If somthing could suck and blow at the time this so called show would. I am sorry but I love the original, I remeber watching the show when I was a boy and I love it. I was just thinking what it someone tried to reimage Firefly and see what happens, that is why I am against it. I just like the parralles to world war II in the old show, the show makes more sense now and real.

FAHQ

Monday, December 15, 2003 3:01 AM

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Originally posted by Harlock:
If somthing could suck and blow at the time this so called show would. I am sorry but I love the original, I remeber watching the show when I was a boy and I love it. I was just thinking what it someone tried to reimage Firefly and see what happens, that is why I am against it. I just like the parralles to world war II in the old show, the show makes more sense now and real.

I enjoyed many TV shows when I was younger-I was about 15 years old back then. The only thing was that even then I came away with the feeling that it was cheesy and most poorly acted. Dirk Benedict and Richard Hatch couldnt act their way out of a torn paper bag. I consider it even a low point in the otherwise great career of Lloyd Bridges. If he and some of the others were any more stiff, they could have had Jonathan Frakes's job on ST Next Generation.

Oh and of course seeing the same exact flight sequences almost every week didnt help its cause. Great concept, great effects for its time, crap writing and acting. On the rare occasion that I have seen the old BG over the past few years-I ask myself "What the HELL did I see in it?".

The new one was very well done overall and I enjoyed it. Nitpicking the crap out of it would require me to have nothing better to do with my time including eat or sleep.

I would really like to see your point of view, but I cant get my head up my butt.

HARLOCK

Monday, December 15, 2003 4:37 AM

I don't think you understood what I was trying to say, if they can change the characters in BSG why not do the same thing for Firefly. The original was good for a reason, I thought Richard Hatch was ok as an actor but I thought Dirk Benedict was great for the part he played he is a great character actor. You have to be stupid not to see that the cylon's were ruined, one of best scifi creations, and they were turned into replacants I was expecting Dekard to pop out at any time and retire them. I will take the chessy origanal than to the new soap opera, Tune in to next week to see if Apollo and Starbuck kiss, is that a canceris lump that the President has or is it a cylon bomb. What a bunch of crap.

FAHQ

Monday, December 15, 2003 9:01 AM

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Originally posted by Harlock:
I don't think you understood what I was trying to say, if they can change the characters in BSG why not do the same thing for Firefly. The original was good for a reason, I thought Richard Hatch was ok as an actor but I thought Dirk Benedict was great for the part he played he is a great character actor. You have to be stupid not to see that the cylon's were ruined, one of best scifi creations, and they were turned into replacants I was expecting Dekard to pop out at any time and retire them. I will take the chessy origanal than to the new soap opera, Tune in to next week to see if Apollo and Starbuck kiss, is that a canceris lump that the President has or is it a cylon bomb. What a bunch of crap.

Cylons ruined? Me, stupid? I dont think so. They created a new weapon. What is to say about the possibility of forced evolution? The cylons learned in this case that in order to defeat their "enemy", they had to become them. It worked. I suppose I could say you must be stupid for not noticing that particular idea, but I really dont need to get personal in this little debate.

I guess the clones in the ever moronic "Gun on Ice Planet Zero" original episode were far more acceptable to you. Such a wonderful episode-It was SO realistic that smaller ships were getting blown up all around the Galactica yet the Galactica was not yet within range. Great writing there-MUCH better than your percieved soap opera.

Another point about "ruining" the Cylons. It is amazing that nobody in the original series could outrun a Cylon. Yep-walking toasters were FAR superior. I couldnt engage enough suspension of disbelief with the help of drugs.

As far as humanoids go, I guess you would have expected Deckard to materialize onto the bridge of the Enterprise and "retire" Data as well if we follow your reasoning, or any other show that used humanoid constructs.

Dirk Benedict a great character actor? I guess I have higher standards and expectations of actors than you do. Fine-Difference of opinion.

The biggest difference between the "new" BSG and old is somebody said "Hold the limburger", and Moore delivered. Nose plugs not required. You may recall that Olmos said in an interview that the diehard fans of the original should not watch it because they would hate it. I think he should have said they wouldnt understand it. Lets not forget Galactica 1980- Where is my barf bag? Ok, maybe we should forget it.

The original BSG was created to ride on the coattails of Star Wars-Nothing more. Look at the track record of Donald P. Bellisario on IMDB-Creator of some of the most insipid crap in television history. Examples: Magnum-Now THERE was some high quality television. JAG-Doesnt take too many brain cells to enjoy that show. Cheeto TV at its best. Oh yeah- Airwolf. Do I really have to go into detail about THAT one? All formulaic crap.

Now to address your statement about changing the characters in Firefly-Look at the statements from Whedon and ask youself something- How would it affect the story that he insists on telling?
Would he let that happen? Doubtful, if you have been paying attention to what he has been saying.

Funny-Its 3 A.M. here in Chicago and I am writing this response just to kill time until I get tired enough to fall asleep. Mission accomplished.

I would really like to see your point of view, but I cant get my head up my butt.

FAHQ

Monday, December 15, 2003 9:07 AM

Dont know how that happened-Must be finally getting tired........

LUIGIFREAK

Monday, December 15, 2003 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by Veteran:
I know that this was supposed to be true, but I've always found the continuity aspect of 'Trek' to be poor if not sometimes totally lacking.

I didn't actually mean the continuity (that has gone out the window), I just meant all the the established rules, the star trek bible if you will.

Star Trek is very formulaic, if you look at enterprise the editing/writing/pacing/stories etc. are not that much differen't than the Next Generation.

VETERAN

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:59 AM

Your right "Trek" is very much a formula type show. Funny thing is that the formula killed the continuity. For some reason (except for DS9), both Voyager and Next Generation started to deal heavily with the Borg and Time Travel plots. Both of these plot types got carried over to Enterprise, which should nothing to do with either (from a continuity aspect).

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