Battlestar Gallactica...More realistic than anything you have seen
POSTED BY: TragicStory
UPDATED: Thursday, May 20, 2004 05:57
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OK, I've had a few minutes to collect my thoughts.
Presented in point form, for now. I'm leaving out the big ending, but this post does contain spoilers so be warned if you haven't watched yet.
-Almost nothing I didn't like - except blonde Cylon was a tad irritating. But as someone said earlier, I guess that was the point.
-Given our conversation earlier, I laughed out loud when Boxey showed up. But if this turns into a regular series - he has Wesley Crusher potential. Which is either a good or bad thing, depending on how you feel about Wesley Crusher.
-The take on Earth is interesting - I wonder if we exist or not?
-Whoever said earlier that they liked the Mormon stuff, well you got a bit of that tonight. The "so say we all" speech really made it feel like the old show.
-Starbuck, I think I love you. You are the best pilot ever and you saved the lovely Apollo. I am shipping Starpollo already. Or Appolbuck, if you prefer.
-Baltar was freaking hilarious with his two conversations at once, and feigned ignorance/guilt. I think I love him too.
-Overall, I give it an A, and a big YAY vote on this becoming a regular series.
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I give it a B+. Just don't understand why Boomer and Starbuck had to undergo sex changes. Wasn't there a prominent female pilot in the first series.
I can't wait until we can have a thread like this regarding a Firefly movie or miniseries.
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Originally posted by Veteran:
I give it a B+. Just don't understand why Boomer and Starbuck had to undergo sex changes. Wasn't there a prominent female pilot in the first series.
There were tons of female pilots in the first one - the big deal being that all the male pilots were dying so they had to do the unprecedented and allow the precious women to fly. In the 70s, that may have been OK, but I think if they followed the original to the letter, it would have appeared dated. And honestly, I think making Starbuck a woman was pure genious.
Honestly, I like this version better - the women aren't "precious", they're a integral part of the team. As for the sex changes - your opinion, so your call. But I haven't been this excited about a female character since Buffy, so I'm all for it.
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You know, I do have to say that I was intrigued when the new Baltar didn't trick the old lady with bad eyesight out of her seat - and was honest about it. Makes him somewhat more empathetic - and interesting - of a character.
But he was thinking about it. The only reason he didn't was the pilot recognized him first, as someone who they might want on the ship. Otherwise, he would have done it.
"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"
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I was a bit surprised at the sheer amount of sex that took place in the first hour. It just seemed strange and slightly out of place. Oh well, I guess sex sells.
it does, but actually they were upholding tradition, if you'll pardon the really bad pun. last night I remembered that one of the first things Starbuck did in the original was proposition Cassiopeia. it was her idea to get physical in the launch tubes, and with censorship the way it was in the 70s (and how ironical is that?) they couldn't show much. and I think Athena hit the steam release before they really got busy anyway.
what's excessive to me is how it took two couples to recreate that one brief moment of...tradition.
all I can say this morning without writing any spoilers for thems as missed part two, is that there better be a series in the works, or at least another miniseries. leaving it like this would be like the cancellation all over again - leaving us dangling on the cliff when there's obviously still so much story to tell.
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Originally posted by Veteran:
I give it a B+. Just don't understand why Boomer and Starbuck had to undergo sex changes. Wasn't there a prominent female pilot in the first series.
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Originally posted by Samus:
There were tons of female pilots in the first one - the big deal being that all the male pilots were dying so they had to do the unprecedented and allow the precious women to fly.
that would be the point - ONE prominent female pilot. with there being more women pilots in the service these days, having only one wouldn't have lent the sense of realism this series needs.
not to mention after the girls got drafted to replace the dying boys, we only saw one female pilot remain with the squadrons - an African American who seen more often with Boomer's arm around her than in a Viper. Sheba came along eventually, and predictably got herself involved with Apollo. So both female pilots had only one primary plot motivation - to provide sympathetic pat-on-the-back romantic interests for two of the existing characters, not to be warriors in the true sense.
girls wanna have fun too, Veteran
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I can't wait until we can have a thread like this regarding a Firefly movie or miniseries.
you and me both, browncoat. keep flying!
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Channain wrote:
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girls wanna have fun too
Well, I'm all for that. Besides Katie Sackhoff is doing a great job.
Now, what's going on with Boomer? I noticed only one Boomer Cylon in the last scene. Is there something to that? Maybe the Cylons captured the real Boomer and replaced her. I really hope they didn't go so far as to make one of the main crew members a Cylon.
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girls wanna have fun too
Well, I'm all for that. Besides Katie Sackhoff is doing a great job.
Yes she is!!
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Now, what's going on with Boomer? I noticed only one Boomer Cylon in the last scene. Is there something to that? Maybe the Cylons captured the real Boomer and replaced her. I really hope they didn't go so far as to make one of the main crew members a Cylon.
Recall that Number Six, Baltar's very own "Harvey", told him that there were Cylons among them. Many probably don't even know they're Cylons, and wouldn't until "activation". Boomer told Boxey that her parents died when she was little.
Here's a what if - what if Boxey is a Cylon, and instinctively sought out the Boomer Cylon? so far we've only seen about one-third of the Cylon models - there's still seven other models we haven't seen.
What bugs me is that the models we have seen are exact duplicates of the infiltrators, right down to their clothes - the Number 6 models in the red suit and boots, etc. If they were going to be true infiltrators, wouldn't they want to mix up the wardrobe a bit?
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Here's a what if - what if Boxey is a Cylon, and instinctively sought out the Boomer Cylon? so far we've only seen about one-third of the Cylon models - there's still seven other models we haven't seen.
I don't THINK Boxey is a Cylon - but I could be wrong though - I certainly didn't suspect Boomer AT ALL, so who knows
The reason I think Boxey is human is that his picture was on the table of the Emissary from the Colonies that died at the very beginning of the movie. I think he is that guy's son.
Not that that's the strongest evidence in the world, but I think Boomer not having parents is significant. Oops, my parents are dead - so I have no family for my friends to meet - convenient.
But yeah, it's plausible that cyclons could have replaced regular people. I'm assuming they don't age though, which might be a problem.
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Originally posted by Veteran:
I noticed only one Boomer Cylon in the last scene. Is there something to that?
Yeah but, when they had her big reveal and she said what she said, the Number Six said something like: at your command. I think Boomer's the leader - maybe she's Lucifer, or the equivalent. If she's in charge, may be that there aren't that many of her.
OK my questions:
How many human-looking cyclons are there now, for sure.
I count 4 so far:
Six
Boomer
Munitions thief guy
annoying press junket guy (Baltar's patsy).
Did I miss anyone?
Also - is Boomer a sleeper or not? Someone left that nasty note in Adama's quarters about the colonies, so if she is "sleeping", then there is at least one other Cylon. Maybe it's her boyfriend, then they don't have to break up :)
The fresh-faced, bushy-haired assistant to the new President. He was TOO intuitive and seemed to get "lost" a little too often (I thought maybe on purpose).I thought he might of been a Cylon, or a red herring. Anyone else think any other characters were suspicious?
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Originally posted by Channain:
What bugs me is that the models we have seen are exact duplicates of the infiltrators, right down to their clothes - the Number 6 models in the red suit and boots, etc. If they were going to be true infiltrators, wouldn't they want to mix up the wardrobe a bit?
I think if you watch the last scene again, you'll see at least some variety in the clothing. I watched again to count the number of models there, and did notice a bit of clothing variety. Also, Baltar's intangible/brain chip Six was dressed differently than the tangible one.
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