Battlestar Gallactica...More realistic than anything you have seen

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Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:41 PM

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Originally posted by Veteran:
I noticed only one Boomer Cylon in the last scene. Is there something to that?

Yeah but, when they had her big reveal and she said what she said, the Number Six said something like: at your command. I think Boomer's the leader - maybe she's Lucifer, or the equivalent. If she's in charge, may be that there aren't that many of her.

What was actually said was: "By your command". That was from the original series, and the Cylon equivalent of "Yes sir". in their command structure. When an order was given, the subordinate's response was: "By your command".

CHANNAIN

Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:53 PM

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Originally posted by Samus:
I think if you watch the last scene again, you'll see at least some variety in the clothing. I watched again to count the number of models there, and did notice a bit of clothing variety. Also, Baltar's intangible/brain chip Six was dressed differently than the tangible one.

True, Baltar's Number Six was dressed VERY different than the tangible one - that was a very effective bombshell/make-men-stupid dress, I must say - and the tangible one had an extensive "Sluts-R-Us" wardrobe. The make-men-stupid dress didn't show up until Baltar was about to board the Raptor and saw his "Harvey" for the first time.

I will have to go back and look again, but at first glance it seemed like all they did was have the same actors playing the three known Cylon models walk into the shot in different positions wearing the same costumes. The only variation was the Boomer model, who came in with her hair down and not wearing a Colonial pilot's suit.

On the other hand, this could be a Cylon cultural thing. Exact duplication down to the threads could be their idea of perfection, which is the be-all, end-all of their existence.

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SAMUS

Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:59 PM

I am pretty sure that press junket guy was wearing a different colored blazer (but similar) from the other press junket guy that came with the other cyclons.

and i think munitions guy models had a variety of clothes too.

CHANNAIN

Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:09 PM

I'm sure you're bang-on - I haeven't looked at it since I got the Firefly DVDs - but I can't get rid of the image in my mind that the second press junket guy (Aaron Doral) seen strolling onto Ragnar Station was wearing the same robin-egg blue "follow-me" suit that the "original" Aaron Doral was wearing during the press tour on Galactica. That's how we would recognize the third model quickly and realize that Baltar did the Galactica a service after all by getting Original Aaron off the ship. Original Aaron had changed into different clothes for the trip back to Caprica.

The best answer for my poor tortured mind is that the film makers decided to not change the costuming too dramatically because the final shot of the Cylons was pretty quick. Viewers like us who weren't recording for posterity wouldn't be able to tell at a glance that only the three known models were boarding the station.

My brain is also still tweaking with the Cylon Culture aspect - each model wears a particular type of clothing as one part imitation, one part achievement of perfection, one part classification of the model. Since the CGI Cylon models all look alike - being more robotic - the Upgraded models might continue that aspect of the culture.

And now that I have traveled all the way to Geekdom, I'm going to stop right here and take a rest.

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SAMUS

Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:35 PM

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Originally posted by Channain:
I'm sure you're bang-on - I haeven't looked at it since I got the Firefly DVDs - but I can't get rid of the image in my mind that the second press junket guy (Aaron Doral) seen strolling onto Ragnar Station was wearing the same robin-egg blue "follow-me" suit that the "original" Aaron Doral was wearing during the press tour on Galactica.

Yes, I think so - sameish blazer as the beginning of the show. When Aaron Doral (but I like the name press junket guy) was kicked off the ship, his blazer was orangey browney.

CHANNAIN

Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:43 PM

how about doofus press junket guy? refusing to accept the minister of education as the take-charge girl that she was, trying to get Apollo to assume control when clearly Apollo knows a kick-ass leader when he sees one. I mean who does press junket guy think he is anyway? man, I wanted to smack him!

also, I think Laura's assistant Billy is the real deal - that is to say not a Cylon. aside from the fact that the red-herring factor is way too obvious, he only signed on to be assistant to the minister of education, not the ruler of the free colonies who suddenly finds himself living on board a Battlestar. that's enough to turn anyone into a bumbling fool, never mind that every corridor on board looked the same as the one before it, and Galactica's big enough to accommodate 2000 people - that's bigger than Enterprise E - roughly the size of a WWII aircraft carrier. It would be like trying to find your way around the inside of the TARDIS (Dr. Who reference, fyi.)

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SAMUS

Thursday, December 11, 2003 7:02 PM

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Originally posted by Channain:
how about doofus press junket guy? refusing to accept the minister of education as the take-charge girl that she was, trying to get Apollo to assume control when clearly Apollo knows a kick-ass leader when he sees one. I mean who does press junket guy think he is anyway? man, I wanted to smack him!

At first I thought so too, then when the cylon factor emerged I realized he was trying to cause chaos - get people to question authority, have them stay behind with those who couldn't light jump, play on human emotion, etc. Cause chaos and play on human weakness - same thing that made me question billy too - 'that little girl isn't coming along, comment'. but i agree he was probably a red herring.

CHANNAIN

Thursday, December 11, 2003 7:13 PM

telling the president about the little girl was putting more weight on her decision - the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Billy's comment just put a pretty little face on one of the few. punched a hole in my heart too, actually.

it was part of what the original BG never explored. yes, millions were killed in the attack, but no one ever mentioned how many of those millions were children.

btw - GOOD EYE!! I didn't even see that Boxey was in the picture on the ambassador's desk in the prolouge.

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INDIANABANZAI

Thursday, December 11, 2003 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by Samus:
we only saw one female pilot remain with the squadrons - an African American who seen more often with Boomer's arm around her than in a Viper.

Having just watched a good chunk of the BSG DVD set, I noticed that at least one other female fighter pilot appears, the one who later became Anna Demera on Days of Our Lives (oh god, what an obscure reference that was). I gotta look for the AA female that you were refering to.

And whoever asked before, 'Greetings From Earth' included scenes of Athena teaching the children about Earth.

VETERAN

Friday, December 12, 2003 3:01 AM

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Originally posted by Channain:
Recall that Number Six, Baltar's very own "Harvey", told him that there were Cylons among them. ...

Yep, but at the time I thought they were referring to the "PR" guy.

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... what if Boxey is a Cylon, and instinctively sought out the Boomer Cylon? so far we've only seen about one-third of the Cylon models - there's still seven other models we haven't seen.

I hadn't thought about that. But until the last scene, I thought there were 12 of one model and Baltar was having his fling with the 6th one (the previous 5 having met their demise in some way).

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What bugs me is that the models we have seen are exact duplicates of the infiltrators, right down to their clothes

Yeah, that was very sloppy on the part of the production crew.

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