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Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:52 PM

hi.
So yeah isnt this thread supposed to be a joke and not real? I think if anyone should be empress it should be me, except emperor... and not in a cat suit, jeans and tshirt kind of thing.

And by the way agatsu.. .can you create a thread, just for that poll? Alert people about it? I didnt know about it, until you posted it, and I could post it on other boards too if you want? You shouldnt put this in the vote now thread, because well thats freaken huge. And mention in the title its an anonymous poll.
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Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:55 PM

Yeah bud, but in the political wrestling and wrangling, you might end up with no date and no blip at all.

I endorse both dates, and there's enough time between them that I can save up my pennies and buy a copy on each of them.

And never forget that Firefly and Serenity are fun. When any promotion or idea makes it stop being fun, it's time to re-evaluate the idea or promotion. I haven't seen anything divide the Firefly fan community like this since Wash died.

-Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:01 PM

well, there was the questioning of the marketing of the movie, and the DVD cover craptacular, but I do agree... this is really bad... and yeah its starting to lose its fun appeal....
:(
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Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by Agatsu:
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Originally posted by LaughingMuse:
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:


Tell you what, we'll probably end up having two blips on the radar, instead of just one. Is that so bad?

--Anthony



I keep saying that.

Hey AnthonyT, come join the crowd:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=20228&m=293768



Well, I keep saying that ONE huge impact is better than TWO medium sized tremors, especially PR-wise. Everyone is free to do what they want, though, and buying the DVDs is never a bad thing, but the whoooole point that started this whooooooole issue was to buy the DVDs, united, on ONE day. Apart from that, the sales on the SECOND date would have to be higher no matter what, or it'd look like we're losing fans, and some Browncoats may not be willing to spend money again.

I'm gonna be so glad when this is over and I can spend more time in the fun threads...


BROWNCOATS UNITE!
Serenity Day on September 30th for maximum sexual pleasure!



that's why june 23d should be the mass buying day while september 30th should focus on somthing other than another buying day.

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Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:08 PM


I just did the math:

There are 54 days until June 23rd.
If you want to buy a 20 dollar copy of Serenity on June 23rd, you only have to save 37 cents per day to afford it.

There are 99 days between June 23rd and Sept 30th.

So after buying your first copy of Serenity on June 23rd, you only have to save 20 cents per day to afford a second copy on September 30th.

Everyone can be happy! Hurrah!

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:16 PM

wow. all i have to say is that this thread got all sorts of ugly. I don't understand the bickering. We have two dates, let's run with both! we are problem solvers and intelligent people. We have slated june 23rd already and there's at least a large chunk of people that would liek that day to stick, so be it, we'll do somthing on june 23rd for joss' birthday.

Serenity day is supposed to be about celibrating the movie and such- logically, that should be september 30th.

so you dont' have a charity screening in your city: have a small shindig in your house and collect 5 bucks per person to donate to the charity. Have a poker tourny! what more is western than playing poker! the pot will be devided- 1/2 to charity 1/2 to winner.

'cmon guys, we can do tons of things here but a lot of us got off track.

bottom line, no one can argue that the charity is a bad idea. and suprisingly enough, it'll help our cause in a good way to draw attention to the numbers there also. We want to get universal's attention too? we'll do a big campagn on september 30th...three months later, i doubt we'll be broke from june 23rd.

i'm sorry, the way i look at it, i dont' see any reason to argue and this is just upsetting

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Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by EmpXenu:
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Yeppers. Firefly/Serenity fans pretty much do as they please, bless 'em... Rule #1 - There Ain't No Rules!

Well, a brick could do a better job than Kaele is doing atm, because she is working AGAINST what we want. I don't care HOW MUCH she is doing, since she is doing it for the wrong ruttin day and the wrong ruttin reasons and NOT for us Browncoats, brushing reason and all the votes and pros for September 30th aside to go through with what SHE thinks is best for us.


Okay, can someone explain how these two statements go together?



Sure!

• The quotes you highlighted are from two different people (which you already knew) and from posts aiming at two very different purposes... so, actually, they don't go together, and
• Rule #1 - There Ain't No Rules!

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"working AGAINST what we want", "wrong ruttin day", "NOT for us Browncoats"? I consider myself one of those but I don't recall giving you permission to speak for me. You have a tally of a few dozen votes and you're already considering the issue settled. It's ironic how you lash out at this Kaele person for thinking she knows what's best for everyone.


From what I can see, Agatsu isn't so much going on about which person knows what's best... more like, the person in the position of leader was not acknowledging the majority of the fans who were speaking up.

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Organise all you want for September but let others do the same for whenever they feel. People who feel inclined to buy the movie on 9/30 will do so, those who want to do it on any other date will do so.


That's probably what will end up happening. Fans are individuals... we're not part of the "one mind" hive... which is a good thing...

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If you want them to get it on a specific date, do your best to convince them why but you're putting down someone with the same intentions.


Can't we buy DVDs without putting folks down? Gee I hope so.

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We're not an ant colony, we're a diverse group of people with different mindsets and opinions who just happen to have one thing in common. Being an Independent isn't peaches and cream all the time, eh?


Got that right. Sometimes it's overturned furniture, broken pool cues, spilled drinks, and getting tossed into the big mirror...

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One little fact I'd like to emphasize is that every sold copy helps, no matter what day it's acquired on. When I first heard about this Serenity day thing I thought it was a nice way of showing appreciation for something we love but after all this ruckus, I'm not sure if I'll be a part of it. You can be sure I'll always be ready to spread the word to anyone who will listen though.


BLESS YOU!!!

11th Hour

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Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by ianw:
i'm sorry, the way i look at it, i dont' see any reason to argue and this is just upsetting



It does give an uncomfortableness. I thought my posts were over-the-top wacky enough to bring some much needed humor back.

Everyone's just so stressed out right now...

11th Hour

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Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by Agatsu:

Ah, it's a long and ugly story, even if it happened quite fast. Now that there's a vote up on vote.serenityday.org, it'll all be settled soon.

It isn't about Kaele vs 11th Hour, though,it's June 23rd vs September 30th for Serenity Day.

And even if September 30th is decided on, and after all the anger, I'd still be fine with Kaele being in charge of organising Serenity Day, as long as she is willing to listen to people and respect their wishes and not think that she has "the power". Like in a committee... comitee.. comm... council that talks about what's supposed to happen and what the people want.
Prima Inter Pares. First among equals. "Equals" being the key word here. As long as she agrees with that term for her, and the meaning, I'm willing to serve the will of the Browncoat community under her supervision.
I don't care as long as the one taking the "job" does it right and relies on the council and the favor of the Browncoat community.

So, as you see, it's not about someone versus someone, at least not for me.


BROWNCOATS UNITE!
Serenity Day on September 30th for maximum sexual pleasure!




Ok, I've been staying out of this, and this is the only post I'll make on this subject - but I think this is really, really unfair to Kaele. I've been working with her and not once has she acted like she has "the power". She did put it to a vote and the original group of voters did say that June 23rd was a good day to keep. That changed as other people came in, which is cool, we're all Browncoats, the more the merrier and the more plans the merrier - but don't paint Kaele out to be a dictator. She's not. She's worked hard despite have a fair amount going on IRL.

She has always been willing to listen to my input and never tried to force anything on me. I really think it shows poor form to drag her name through the mud. Even if you didn't like working with her, there's no cause for it. Just go and do your own thing, that's fine. Sometimes people just don't work well together, it happens. But don't trash someone on the forum. It's immature and creates a general environment of ill-will.

And that's all I've got to say on the forums about the mud slinging that's been going on. If there's any response, please PM me. I don't want to take up anyone else's time. Can't we all just get along?

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Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:31 PM

More Fun Maths!

If you earn a minimum wage of 5 dollars per hour, you only have to set aside 4 minutes and 44 seconds of work each day to be able to afford the DVD on June 23rd.

Then you only need to set aside 2 minutes and 40 seconds of work each day to afford the DVD again on September 30th.

--Anthony


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