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S6- Seeing Red..Holly CRAP, Batman, I just noticed something! (spoilery)

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, June 15, 2006 00:14
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Friday, April 28, 2006 6:33 PM

Joss and Co. don't want any character HAPPY!!!

*Buffy- yanked from Heaven and miserable enough to shag Spike!
*Xander- broken up with Anya, and seeing HER shag Spike!
*Anya- wanting Xander's gut pulled out!
*Willow- gets to see her girlfriend DIE!!!!
*Tara- well, not happy or unhappy, JUST DEAD!!!!!!!
*Dawn- lost her Mom, Sis, got Sis back broken, trying to hide pimples...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Spike- happiest of the lot, no soul and whiskey helps him to be merely sad.

How they manage to work in the funny is almost beyond me...



But still likin' it Chrisisall

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Friday, April 28, 2006 6:54 PM

I think there's a quote floating around here(it actually pertains to Firefly, but I think it applies here) about how Joss doesn't like people and in every episode Mal will shoot someone we like. I think it's the same with Buffy but with fewer deaths/shootings of the people we like.
Edit: Joss was probably kidding about the not liking people though.

JOSSIS(Most Definitely)AGOD

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Friday, April 28, 2006 8:30 PM

I think he's trying to show that life is hard, be we go on (or keep flying, as the case may be) anyway.

Chrisisallbot

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Friday, April 28, 2006 9:46 PM

I think the Joss quote was something like "Everyone wants people to be happy, so in every episode I have to remind them that I don't like people. Then Mal shoots someone. Someone we like. And their puppy."

And you think that S6 of Buffy was proof of that?
Let's review, shall we? Not season-by-season, but relationship-by-relationship:
Buffy/Angel--really shouldn't start with these two. They define tragic love, right?
Buffy/Spike--relationship born out of depression, ending in attempted rape
Buffy/Riley--Riley left her for the MILITARY
Xander/Buffy--never got past the Xander-daydream stage
Xander/Willow--ruined more relationships than it helped
Xander/Cordy--see Xander/Willow
Willow/Oz--see Xander/Willow, then Oz leaves later thanks to Veruca
Willow/Tara--Tara is murdered just after they reconcile
Xander/Anya--left Anya at the alter, then Anya dies in the finale
Xander/Faith--one night stand
Buffy/Parker--let's not go there, ok?
Angel/Cordy--she sleeps with his son, becomes big bad, goes comatose, dies, and transcends or something
Cordy/Doyle--Doyle sacrifices himself for the greater good
Gunn/Fred--Angelus manipulation causes breakup (possibly the healthiest breakup on the show)
Fred/Wesley--together for less than ONE EPISODE before Fred is killed and subsequently possessed by Illyria
Mal/Inara--those two really need a swift kick in the hormones.
Zoe/Wash--well... you know.

Ok, so to be fair, here are the relationships that succeeded:
Simon/Kaylee
Willow/Kennedy
Faith/Wood (however long that'll last, knowing Faith)

Seventeen... to three. The vote is in: Joss doesn't like it when people have happy endings.
(end rant)

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Friday, April 28, 2006 9:54 PM

Now I'm really depressed.
...plus I learned a spoiler for S7...
(not like I couldn't see it coming, though)

Chrisisall

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Friday, April 28, 2006 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by platinummongoose:
The vote is in: Joss doesn't like it when people have happy endings.



It's pretty damn difficult to have a happy ending before the show actually ends...

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Friday, April 28, 2006 11:08 PM

Joss is a sadist.

I'm sorry, do you have a point?





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And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

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Friday, April 28, 2006 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by platinummongoose:

Ok, so to be fair, here are the relationships that succeeded:
Simon/Kaylee
Willow/Kennedy
Faith/Wood (however long that'll last, knowing Faith)
(end rant)



I think that's just because we haven't seen these stories through. All relationships end unhappily - either through breakup or death unless you fall in love, never have a bad time, and die together. That's gotta be rare ...

None of my relationships have ended "happily every after", have yours?

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Friday, April 28, 2006 11:47 PM

Ok, Chrisisall, I know I haven't gotten back to you about Dune yet, but I thought I'd let you know I've q'd Buffy into the cycle on my Netflix.

Can't wait to get started and see what I think.

Oh, and I really will watch Dune and catch up with you.

Done with taxes and politikin... had my fill.

Need some melange for sure.


Dianeneedsatranceisall

"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal

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Saturday, April 29, 2006 3:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FollowMal:
Ok, Chrisisall, I know I haven't gotten back to you about Dune yet, but I thought I'd let you know I've q'd Buffy into the cycle on my Netflix.

Can't wait to get started and see what I think.


Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy the Chosen Collection? I seen it for $178 on the net somewhere... Pricegrabber.com would take you there.

Gonna watch the Long version, or the theatrical Dune first?

About Buffy, it took me over a year to get to season 6, I kept getting to certain points and saying to myself "That's it! It's not like it used to be (season 2 and 3), I quit!" But I finally broke down and bought the whole thing- I just had to see how it ends, I feel like I know these people now.
And it takes some of the edge off not having enough Firefly.

Later, D.

Chrisisall, confirmed Buffy fan in the end

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