SerenityDay: Change the Date? VOTE NOW
POSTED BY: Hera
UPDATED: Monday, May 1, 2006 09:38
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Abstain.
Every day is Firefly/Serenity day to me.
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I don't disagree on any particular point.
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The irony is that changing the date will only hurt BIX's cause - less attention being spread and less publicity to fellow browncoats that could only help his cause on that day. So, ironically, if we wanted to stick it to him we should change the date to later... but that would actually end up hurting Equality now in the end...so how messed up is that? Dude needs to swallow his pride and embrace the Serenity Day event and all the people we have sent him and will send him, who will inturn benefit the Equality Now charity.
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Originally posted by LittleAlbatross29:
In an ideal verse we could combine the 2 efforts.But since it appears some people can't share or play nicely ,I think we should wait until Sept.Why not show how gracious we can be in the face of well, nastiness.
I personally don’t care how mean B!X becomes about this, because there's nothing we can do about that. The fact remains that he’s put in a lot of work for Serenity Now, and we have a lot of work left to do on the Serenity Day materials. We need the time to do this right. Some of the volunteers have day jobs! We haven’t got the message of what we’re trying to accomplish figured out even amongst ourselves enough to eliminate people's questions, and these questions and ruminations are what’s killing us now.
It’s taken us an entire week alone to decide on a sig, a name, and a url. Those 3 alone caused a lot of churn and airing of great ideas. Now the date has caused this controversy.
We need the time to iron all this out. We don’t have time to do this right and mend (or burn) bridges at the same time.
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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I suggest that all who can go out and support Bix's charity screenings. Thats the beat thing we can do right now. We keep our efforts up and move the date to Sept. 30th. This gives us more time to prepare for our day. I always thought June 23 was too soon. But we don't abandon any of the charity screenings we were planning on going to or even planning to set up. The screenings still go for a good cause. Our cause still needs time to mature.
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One day.
One plan.
One army of Browncoats.
On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.
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An idea...
What about if June 23rd became like a kind of dry run to test the effectiveness of the campaign? Keep campaigning to have folks buy DVDs on that date (Happy Birthday Joss!), afterward, we can see what the sales figures ended up being. Then the battle plan will become a lot clearer. Either the numbers will be really great (don't mean to be negative, but doubt that truly "awesome" numbers can happen in such a short amount of time), or the sales will be a lot less than all the great expectations were hoping for. But at least some "real world" results will be available.
Then folks can get geared up for Serenity Day on September 30th. Either with confidence that we're already coming from a strong place, or the cold, hard realization that there's still a whole lotta promotin' to be done.
If the "test run" thing sounds like a good idea, then it can be named something without the word "Serenity" in it. That will help delineate the DVD buying campaign from the Serenity Now/Equality Now charity screenings. Some peace can be achieved it the names of the different events really are "different".
Sometimes an army has to have a few skirmishes to test itself, then they can come back for the big battle even stronger.
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P.S.
For anyone who hasn't done guerilla marketing, let me just say it can be a tough battle. It's fun because you're doing it with your browncoat buddies, but going out there into the big world, and talkin' up folk who won't initially have interest in what you have to say, is a lot to overcome. There's a lot of things out there trying to grab peoples' attention... takes a lot of persistence and good energy to make a dent.
You can get already existing fans excited about an idea, but getting other folk convinced is a different matter. It will take time to create the kind of effect fans want for Serenity Day.
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We HAVE to keep it the 23rd.
Our fanbase does not exist in an environment which supports sudden change.
Everyone here knows that the 23rd is the day.
If we change it, we're going to lose a significant percentage of our participants.
Remember, everybody is doing this out of good will. No one is compelled.
If we start changing dates, titles, times, etc.; the effort will simply become confused. Our efforts will dissipate. Just buy it on Amazon or whereever if you can't get to a video store to buy a copy. It's not that hard.
I say our board is big enough. I've been telling people in my community that the 23rd is the day.
You can't stop the signal, but if you scramble it, noone will tune in.
KEEP IT THE 23RD
-aztechrome
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Please change the date to Sept 30th. I find the ruthless infighting very discouraging. I don't want to go up against the vets. Since they are so offended, I think we should be gracious and just pick a different day. Besides, Serenity's anniversary would have more significance to Universal than Joss' birthday. This project would be a great way to say thank you to Universal. It makes more sense to approach it this way rather than claiming to be able to show them huge sales numbers to influence them to make more Serenity installments. Just make it a day of celebration for what we have already been given and what we hope to have more of.
Avoiding conflict among The Coats will not cause a loss of momentum. It will contribute toward building momentum and the project will become stronger and more successful. Success is our ultimate goal.
(MALicious on the Browncoats board)
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Speaking from experience, if you're going to go ahead with this you'll need more time in terms of planning and speaking to the press and the fanbase. Plus a lot of the fans don't know who the organisers are. Bonds have to be built and there has to be some sort of recognition factor. I didn't have a clue who you guys were which is why I said what I said at Whedonesque.
June 23rd looks like a rush date and smacks of a hasty effort which ultimately will not achieve much. September 30th is a far more recogniseable date to Browncoats than June 23rd.
And might I suggest that you have your own dedicated PHP forum for the campaign? As threads here tend to get bumped and down like there's no tomorrow. And it's easier for people to post their own ideas on how to get noticed and for other people to comment on the ideas.
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Change it.
Yeah, who am I? :) I'm DizzyEllie, and I've been following this from pretty much the beginning.
B!X is pretty popular amongst many of the fans outside of this site, and sorry, but as much as I disagree with how he voices his opinion, he does have the high-ground on this one: he picked the date first and his cause is for charity. There is no way you can win that argument. The more folks push against B!X and his screenings, the more this whole thing will be viewed very negatively from the fanbase outside of FFF.net. Once again, I do not agree with how B!X is handling this (he could be nicer, and just say "no" to combining the events and state the two events are not linked; instead he is deriding the Serenity Day folks as selfish and self-serving. Not cool or classy in my book.).
Pick Sept 30, and there is months to get the word out, no conflict with the very-vocal-B!X, and there will be some distance from all this negativity.
Sorry, but if you want this effort to succeed, you'll have to pull in more people then from FFF.net. But I, for one, will be on board with my purchase no matter what day you choose.
Best of luck, either way!
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My vote is keep the 23rd and Plan for a Bigger Bang on Sept. 30th!
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