Battlestar Gallactica...More realistic than anything you have seen
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I only saw a couple of expisodes of the original, and I was pretty young then. I do remember Starbuck's smile, and the new Starbuck has got it down, however she reminds me of Pink for some reason. Must be that tough, short blonde hair look.
The space combat stuff good, and the whole time I couldn't help but think of Firefly because of the similarity in "camera" work, plus have the Serenity easter egg also helped with that. I liked they way ships could rotate in place without changing thier vector, made it a bit more realistic.
-The SpAz
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the new-fangled Vipers were pretty cool. so sad they were so suseptable to Cylon techno-terrorism.
wait until Adama finds out that so-and-so Minister of Education who was ordering his son around is now the boss of him. ooh - BETTER, the moment he finds out Apollo is still alive - that's what I'm looking forward to.
one also wonders if Apollo's hostility toward Dad, blaming him for Zac's death is his way of dealing with his own guilt. In the original, uncut pilot, Zac sacrified himself so Apollo could warn Galactica of the pending Cylon attack, thus Apollo always blamed himself for his little brother's death. How, then, did Zac die in this version? maybe I need to do a little more reading?
anyone else catch the Battlestar theme used as fanfare music during the decommission ceremony? I've seen all the BG eps at least once - late night reruns are a wonderful thing. I remember thinking as a kid how cool it was that my favorite character was named after my home town 
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Originally posted by Channain:
The British man is Baltar, as Baltar was in the beginning of the original series pilot - a sniveling little man out for the greater good of nobody but himself. he negotiated the truce between humans and Cylons not for the betterment of mankind, but for the betterment of Baltar - all for one and one for one. he didn't get truly evil until the second two-part of the series.
Yes, I do seem to remember that Baltar (thanks to all with the name info) had a personality change - but I was very young.
Before Baltar, there was some pointy-headed Cylon in a red sparkly robe, I think. For some reason, he always reminded me of the Bishop chess piece. I think it was the shape of his head.
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New Apollo has the same seriousness as Apollo, if a tad less charisma - and Edward James Almos was absolutely perfect.
You know, at the risk of being chased with big sticks, I'd have to say that the acting is pretty much better all the way around in this one - Lorne Greene or no.
Just my opinion, but I can tell you that I think this Apollo is head AND shoulders above Richard Hatch in the "hubba hubba" department - charisma included (although that just might be a by-product of generational differences, but I don't really think so), and his acting is better too.
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anyone else catch the Battlestar theme used as fanfare music during the decommission ceremony?
Noticed it, yes. Smiled.
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How, then, did Zac die in this version?
They only seemed to touch on it. My interpretation is that he died due to some sort of flight error of his own. Hence the anger of Apollo at Adama, for helping Zac get into flight school when he wasn't ready. Or something like that, I think.
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Before Baltar, there was some pointy-headed Cylon in a red sparkly robe, I think. For some reason, he always reminded me of the Bishop chess piece. I think it was the shape of his head.
That would be Lucifer, his red robe and sparkly head, who was voiced by Jonathan Harris - now that one I had to look up. I could see him, sparkly lights in his head and all, but couldn't think of his name. Probably because I don't miss Lucifer in the slightest. Or Boxey either, for that matter. The kid needed a leash, I tell you!
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You know, at the risk of being chased with big sticks, I'd have to say that the acting is pretty much better all the way around in this one - Lorne Greene or no.
just to ease your mind, I won't be one of those chasing you with a stick, big or otherwise. the acting is better this time around, but that may be part of the generational difference. like how everything ST:TNG (after the gawd-awful first season) was better than the original. It might have something to do with a post September 11 frame of mind too. in the 70s, the last time there was a major surprise attack was Pearl Harbor in the 40s - and that's just one parralel.
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Just my opinion, but I can tell you that I think this Apollo is head AND shoulders above Richard Hatch in the "hubba hubba" department - charisma included (although that just might be a by-product of generational differences, but I don't really think so), and his acting is better too.
the hubba-hubba factor! shiny!just for the record, Richard Hatch was pretty hubba-hubba in his day, but my heart will forever be claimed by Dirk Benedict, who I think is aging considerably better. he also has a better attitude toward the re-imaging than Richard does, but I'm not going to go into that.
however, you are absolutely right - Jamie Faber is definitely improving on a good thing.
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...Boxey either, for that matter. The kid needed a leash, I tell you!
Yeah, the kid is not missed by me either. Neither is that weird robotic "dog" that was supposed to replace the kid's dog. In general I think the show is better off without the "family show" aspect to it.
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just for the record, Richard Hatch was pretty hubba-hubba in his day
I can believe it, I think I was just too young to care.
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but my heart will forever be claimed by Dirk Benedict
I was just thinking about looking him up actually, I heard he had cancer a few years ago, but survived. I was just kind of wondering if he was even still with us.
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I'm hoping to see a newer Cylon Basestar.
Didn't the Cylon ships look kind of like a mesh of Trade Federation (Star Wars Ep I) and Kilrathi (video game Wing Commander) ships?
"Let's moon 'em!"
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I was just thinking about looking him up actually, I heard he had cancer a few years ago, but survived. I was just kind of wondering if he was even still with us.
I believe he is still with us. I seem to recall his having been a guest at DragonCon recently.
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Yeah, the kid is not missed by me either. Neither is that weird robotic "dog" that was supposed to replace the kid's dog. In general I think the show is better off without the "family show" aspect to it.
ah yes "Come on Muffy, Come on muffy! Darn you daggit!!" (cringe)
The family aspect has been trimmed down to the adult father/son dynamic between Adama and Apollo, which is also an excellent story to tell.
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Dirk Benedict...I was just thinking about looking him up actually, I heard he had cancer a few years ago, but survived. I was just kind of wondering if he was even still with us.
He's the poster boy for alternative cancer treatments. more than a little neurotic about it (grinding his own wheat to bake his own bread and such), but then all cancer survivors can be that way to some degree - and have every right to be. he wrote a book about it too. on the Sci-fi Lowdown, he was fit as a fiddle, buff and fiesty. tried to light his cigar in the Starbuck's during the "Starbuck buys Starbuck a Starbuck's" segment. he's always maintained that he could still fit into Starbuck's uniform. Richard Hatch? not so much. there's a post here about how David Boreanaz has put on a pound or two, but he's downright thin by comparison to Richard. sadly, no more hubba-hubba factor.
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Didn't the Cylon ships look kind of like a mesh of Trade Federation (Star Wars Ep I) and Kilrathi (video game Wing Commander) ships?
I can't help thinking that the Cylon fighter's cockpit looked a lot like RoboCop's helmet.
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Actually, the traitor guy was very much in it: the original was Baltar, and the remake has Gaius Baltar (in keeping with their tradition of giving the characters first and last names, plus "call" names for the pilots). The guy having the affair with the humanoid Cylon is the new version of Baltar.
He's a lot more plausible than the original: that guy was just a power hungry baddie, whose motivation never made sense. This guy is deluded, selfish, and cowardly, but he never intended the destruction of earth.
I agree that Cylons think organic life is inferior, but I think the point here is that they have improved on the original--they've created a cyborg with the advantages of both. This is the more true since they apparently can transmit the memory and personality of a cyborg from one model to the next: so when one is destroyed, its successor can pick up where the prior one left off. What a great idea. And maybe Number 6 and the other 11 like her were just designed for this purpose: to infiltrate the colonies, access the defense computers, and facilitate the Cylon victory. From a machine's perspective, it's a totally logical reason to design a biological entity!
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