Clothing comes to TV SF
POSTED BY: Zicsoft
UPDATED: Wednesday, March 9, 2011 01:22
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I spent several years in a group that studied medival living. Anybody ever hear of the SCA? Anyway, I specialized in costuming of the period. Most people don't think about it, but attitudes towards clothing is different now. No, I'm not talking style, but the clothes themselves. Today you go to the store, buy something, wear it, wash it, throw it out. Repeat endlessly.
Prior to the industrial revolution, you had to harvest the wool/cotton/linen, wash/dye/process the fibers, then spin it, and weave it. Now after spending a year or more working on the very threads of your fabric, you want me to CUT A HOLE in it????? Forget that. I'll spend the next ten years patching holes in it, and wear it until it literally falls to pieces, and then I will use the scraps for something else.
But the show is set in the future, so why worry? Well, I'm figuring that the colonies may not be as advanced technologically as the big worlds, so the things they produce and use may not be the latest magnetic-electrostatic-never get dirty-lifesaving-totally protectant lifesuits that we see on ST.
Okay, rant is over. We now return you to the normal world. 
Tieka,
to all who ever made thier own of anything.
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Quote:I guess you have a point, but Star Trek is a bad example. Those weird body suits didn't have any magic function. They got dirty if the plot called for it, and they still need space suits to go outside. Their only purpose was to look futuristic.
Originally posted by Tieka:
But the show is set in the future, so why worry? Well, I'm figuring that the colonies may not be as advanced technologically as the big worlds, so the things they produce and use may not be the latest magnetic-electrostatic-never get dirty-lifesaving-totally protectant lifesuits that we see on ST.
As someone who works hard at faithfully re-creating a past time, I would think you'd understand the interests of people interesting in a logically consistent future time.
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Originally posted by mojoeca:
kinda sorta on topic...
I wonder if Joss will dispense with one particular sci-fi cliche: Will we actually *see* bathrooms on Serenity?
--- Joe
Well I can tell you YES! in the episode Serenity we get a nice close up of Mal's crapper as he folds it up back into the wall and then pulls out the sink to wash his hands.
Joss has been very particular with details like this, that is why I think this series is going to be very good indeed.
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Quote:Hell, yeah!
Originally posted by CommonSenseMan:
Well I can tell you YES! in the episode Serenity we get a nice close up of Mal's crapper as he folds it up back into the wall and then pulls out the sink to wash his hands.
Joss has been very particular with details like this, that is why I think this series is going to be very good indeed.
--- Joe
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It's logical to presume that the trends will continue to recycle...
--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--
so what you're saying is, everyone will be wearing black in the future?
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The great thing about his holiness Whedon creates, is that he is consistant with his main ideas. For Firefly, the main idea is that humans will not be anymore enlightened, or mature than they are now. The future is just another typical piece of history. It only makes sense that he wold carry that verisimulitude (sp?) over into the costuming as well.
Bored now.
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Originally posted by curiousir:Quote:
It's logical to presume that the trends will continue to recycle...
--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--
so what you're saying is, everyone will be wearing black in the future?
No, not at all. Well, maybe some people will wear all black in the future... who knows?
What I was saying is that historically, fashion trends continue to recycle. That is, fashion from the 50s reemerged to influence the fashion of the 80s. Fashion of the 70s has been influencing current trends and 80s styles have been making a bit of a comeback. Of course, it's not as simple as that, as some styles merge with other styles creating new styles, but you should understand what I'm trying to say.
Perhaps if the 50s beat style (Black everything) comes back into style in the future, everyone will be wearing black? Is that what you meant?
--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--
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Originally posted by shamus:
Hmm... speaking of shamus, where has he been lately? I haven't heard a word from him him for months.
--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--
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Do the Alliance uniforms have pockets?
I was thinking, StarTrek uniforms have no pockets because there are no personal possesions to carry in them: ie...no personal money...this ~is~ the Federation after all. Pockets are a form of personal privacy--a no no under any Federation.
The Firefly pics I saw of the Alliance made me think of an olde episode of Battlestar Galactica concerning an episode arc about an evil Eastern Alliance. Their ship crew also wore Nazi~ish uniforms and caps. Eastern Alliance dialogue was as simplified as the dialogue of the Imperial officers in StarWars. If anybody knows, is Firefly's Alliance dialogue as confined as this?
Pots. The most tasteful sci~fi depiction of toilets was the way the organic pots on the Lexx would lap out a tongue to wipe the user when he/she was done. They say it felt great and the Lexx was always very, very hungry.
Please forgive my dyslexxia
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You know, on the subject of less industrialised cultures endlessly mending their clothes, did anyone notice the neatly mended horizontal tear in Mal's coat on the sleeve a few inches below one shoulder?
Authentic! I loved it. Three cheers for the wardrobe mavens of Firefly!
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