Battlestar Gallactica...More realistic than anything you have seen
POSTED BY: TragicStory
UPDATED: Thursday, May 20, 2004 05:57
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This was heard over the explosions in space... I guess they never saw Firefly.
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"Societies are supported by human activity, therefore they are constantly threatened by the human facts of self-intrest and stupidity." --Peter Berger
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Well I can see where they might be coming from with that statement. I just watched it and now only was I very surprised at how interesting it was, but I found the filming to be quite interesting. The whole thing was filmed like a documentary and the aspects of war they were depicting were moving. Not to mention lots and lots of explosions and death for entertaining the masses.
Mal:"someone ever ties to kill you, you try to kill'em right back!"
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Gotta have explosions. and Jerry Bruckheimer.
SergeantX
"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith
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I saw Gallactica Part One, and thought is was good - not GREAT - but really good. I was pleasantly surprised.
So, as some points for discussion, I present: something I thought was weird, some things I didn't like, and some things I liked:
Weird:
I was a bit surprised at the sheer amount of sex that took place in the first hour. It just seemed strange and slightly out of place. Oh well, I guess sex sells.
Didn't Like:
although I understand the story value to having human-looking cylons, this disappointed me. The CGI robotic cylons looked really great - I want more of them, not less.
Plus, I thought the whole point of the Cylons is that they think organic life is inferior. Other than using them for spying purposes, I can't see them having much desire to emulate humans at all.
Also, conspicously missing was that traitor guy who ended up working with the Cylons in the original series (I forget his name). I liked that character, would have like to see him included.
Liked:
Liked the mixing up of the characters. Liked Starbuck and Boomer being women - great twist there. Starbuck being the same rowdy fighter pilot, but a woman, was a GREAT twist. Liked that Apollo and Adama aren't the perfect happy family of the original series.
Overall, I guess I give it a "B"
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Originally posted by Samus:
I was a bit surprised at the sheer amount of sex that took place in the first hour. It just seemed strange and slightly out of place. Oh well, I guess sex sells.
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Also, conspicously missing was that traitor guy who ended up working with the Cylons in the original series (I forget his name). I liked that character, would have like to see him included.
Well it was part one so you know that they want to suck the viewers in and what better way to do that then to give them death, :hange: sex,
explosions, 
and a cliff-hanger esq. 
ending? And I think that the traitor that you are talking about is that British man who was sleeping with the blond human looking cylon.
I really do not like eather of those characters. A lot. But then that was the point I’m sure.
Mal:"someone ever ties to kill you, you try to kill'em right back!"
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Originally posted by Vena:
And I think that the traitor that you are talking about is that British man who was sleeping with the blond human looking cylon.
Hmm. I guess I never thought of it that way - you could be right.
But if it's true, then he's a poor replacement for the guy in the original series. The original guy was really eeeeeeeevil. This guy just seemed to make mistakes because of too much pillow talk and a lack of control with keeping his peepee in his pants.
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Originally posted by Samus:
Didn't Like:
although I understand the story value to having human-looking cylons, this disappointed me. The CGI robotic cylons looked really great - I want more of them, not less.
Plus, I thought the whole point of the Cylons is that they think organic life is inferior. Other than using them for spying purposes, I can't see them having much desire to emulate humans at all.
I think there is a reason to emulate humans. They are a successful species, they created the Cylons (in this version) Emulating success is not a dumb thing to do.
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Also, conspicously missing was that traitor guy who ended up working with the Cylons in the original series (I forget his name). I liked that character, would have like to see him included.
Baltar, yes, just like the computer scientist traitor guy playing groin hockey with "Number 6" before the bombs start falling. In the original, Baltar wanted to be ruler of the surviving humans. The Cylons used him and were about to execute him as well, when they learned of Galacitca's escape.
In this one, his treason is a lot less intentional.
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Overall, I guess I give it a "B"
Well, Maybe B+, but then I grade on a scale
"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"
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Hey, did you guys notice the Firefly in the show? In the scene where the Secretary/President is first shown in the waiting room with the large windows there are a lot of space ships flying past. If you look carefully you will see a Firefly class ship coming in for a landing. I had to rewind it with TiVo to double-check. If it's not, it's a ship that looks a whole lot like it. Figure it is an easter egg by the CG guys ; P
My US$.02 on the show... I've seen only a couple of the episodes of the original, so it didn't have to live up to any expectations on my part. I just loved it. Granted it wasn't as realistic as Firefly, but its 100X more real than any other sci fi out there. The ships aren't just 'flying through space', they can spin on their axis and still maintain their same motion. There's jets from RCS thrusters as they manouver. While there are noises in space they are subtle, there for the people that need to hear them, but not overwhelming. I also love the camera work. Gives it a grittier feeling along the lines of Firefly. I can't wait to see tomorrow's show...
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Originally posted by Vena:
And I think that the traitor that you are talking about is that British man who was sleeping with the blond human looking cylon.
The British man is Baltar, as Baltar was in the beginning of the original series pilot - a sniveling little man out for the greater good of nobody but himself. he negotiated the truce between humans and Cylons not for the betterment of mankind, but for the betterment of Baltar - all for one and one for one. he didn't get truly evil until the second two-part of the series.
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Originally posted by Samus:
But if it's true, then he's a poor replacement for the guy in the original series. The original guy was really eeeeeeeevil. This guy just seemed to make mistakes because of too much pillow talk and a lack of control with keeping his peepee in his pants.
well there really is only one Baltar, isn't there? even the actor himself says so. in the Lowdown that was aired two weeks ago, James Callus warned us that his Baltar wouldn't be as evil as the original. in this version, he's still a traitor, but doesn't realize it until it's too late. he's more of a self-centered Lando Calrissian type, really ("it's not my fault!"), but I'd bet even money that if the Cylons came to him and offered the same deal as they did in the original series, New Baltar would be sitting on some pedestal in a basestar in no time.
Can I go off a bit on how much shinier the Viper stuff is in the re-image? I can probably count on one hand how many original Viper fly-by scenes were used in the original series - and count on the other hand how many original combat scenes there were too, for that matter. The new "live-action" effects used in this version totally kick ass.
And I may be the only person who noticed, but New Starbuck has the exact same smile as Starbuck - flashy and cocky and confident. It's like they went out and found Dirk Benedict's love child or something.
New Apollo has the same seriousness as Apollo, if a tad less charisma - and Edward James Almos was absolutely perfect. He fits the description of Adama from the novel as well if not just a tad better than Lorne Greene did - and that's speaking as a confirmed traditionalist.
Part 2 may tell a different tale and may change my mind, but for now I'm thoroughly enjoying the re-imaging.
Firefly Artwork Series
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What I really didn't like was the CGI of the spaceships. I think the unsteady camera angles, quick zooms, and tilted views worked great for Firefly, because of the small doses as establishig shots but were shown too often in BG (IMHO).
Also a complaint, but not really valid, I wish they kept more of the Mormon symbolism and ideology, just because it is neat to catch it.
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"Societies are supported by human activity, therefore they are constantly threatened by the human facts of self-intrest and stupidity." --Peter Berger
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