GWB Approval Rating 4/24/06
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Originally posted by Righteous9:
With a great deal of consistency, I hear from the Bush apologists, who even themselves can't prop him up on his own merits or accomplishments, "at least he isn't Kerry or Gore, because they would just be fucking horrible."
For starters, what isn't fucking horrible about this President's track record?
Secondly, could somebody please elaborate on what exactly Kerry or Gore would have done that would have been so terrible?
Would they have scorned our nation's laws as much as this Presidency has? Would they have ignored and even endangered our national security at the level that this presidency and this buttkissing Congress has? I can go on and on and give specific after specific, but rather than to do that, I'll leave my argument open to attack, so that somebody might actually respond to it, rather than flitting away to post the same old, consistently refuted, propaganda on another thread.
For starters, Bush's tax cuts were great for the country, and I hope they stay fixed.
His response to terrorism was a needed change from the 'treat it like a criminal case ' stance from the previous administration
He had 2 damn good additions to the US Supreme Court ( even w/ the screw up w/ Harriet Myers )
Secondly, Gore and Kerry are flat out nuts. Gore and his Global warming nonsense and Kerry w/ his America sucks position. That pretty much is enough.
And one last thing, only about 1/3 of the people living in America were keen on the idea to break the bonds from England, back before the American Revolutionary War.
Sometimes it's necessary to go with what's best, and not always what's popular
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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For starters, Bush's tax cuts were great for the country, and I hope they stay fixed
Yes, because reducing revenue and increasing expenditure (the great "War on Terrorism") is always a good thing. Last time I checked, debt and an increasing one at that, is a bad thing. I'm not allowed to spend money I don't have, why is he allowed to?
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
the price of gasoline, which has absolutely nothing to do w/ his policy, but it's what everyone has to deal with , regardless. And before anyone whines about the war in Iraq, there's a host of other forces which impact the oil market - increased economies in China, India, Hurricane damage to oil platforms / refineries in the Gulf of Mexio, social unrest in Nigeria, and the whacko Iranian President making new threats every other day
ah, can we talk here....say Auraptor...have I got a deal for you...it's this bridge, see...hell of a bargain....
oh, and just so you'll know....the word gullible is not even in the dictionary....
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Thanks for your response Auraptor,
I'll start at the tax cuts that gave American families about an average of 300 extra dollars in their pockets, if I remember the figure correctly, while giving the rich, huge breaks like bush's own tax credit that was about 92,000 dollars. And no, our overall economy is not looking good. It is not saying much for our country that we have the highest poverty rate among industrialized nations, while those who are in the top 1 percentile keep widening the gap. And Jesus, don't tell me that the rich getting tax cuts somehow trickles down to us. It doesn't. That should be obvious by now.
Just look at our oil companies and their windfall profits, yet our gas is getting more expensive, small business's and the middle class are getting squeezed viciously from this price gouging. Why is it that, so often when a company posts awesome numbers do we almost invariably see them simultaneously outsourcing their workers? There is no company loyalty to America or its citizens, and our government, being a corporately propped up one, is no different.
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Ah yes, his response to terrorism. He couldn't get Bin Laden when we knew he was in Tora Bora..., and since then said he doesn't spend much time on him. He went to look for America-threatening terrorists where they didn't exist, and even kept trumping up the facts to back up his accusation. He tried to allow a deal to go through with the United Arab Emirates to buy OUR PORTS, people who actually had a relationship with Al Quiada.
He has helped to fuel this idea in the minds of Muslims that we are attacking their faith...he has helped to sanction torture of our prisoners, which EVEN IF you say it wasn't that bad, or that they didn't deserve to be treated better(so many have been freed because there was nothing to try them for, by the way), this has enraged parts of the Muslim world and has fed extremism and anti-Americanism.
Your Right, the Bush administration didn't treat terrorism like a criminal case, they used it as a reason to invoke the 'last refuge of the scoundrel,' they used it as a reason to attack without being attacked, a sovereign secular nation that is now fundamentalist thanks to our meddling.
And they failed to prevent 911 and even made ridiculous comments like "nobody could have expected that they would use planes," when the report handed to them( called 'an historic document', by condi) which was labeled 'Bin Laden Determined to attack U.S.' said?....that's right, that they might try to use planes.
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I'll mostly leave the supreme court nominees alone at the moment. I think they were horrible as well as another slap in the face to the half of the country that didn't vote for Bush, because he did not pick moderates by any stretch. But I have no specifics that I can remember about their past cases, connections, etc. off the top of my head, besides that one Roberts was presiding over involving the White House while at the same time interviewing for supreme court justice with Gonzales...talk about shady, sleazy, unethical...etc.
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Jesus, even the Bush administration has finally acknowledged global warming. Is it nuts when the scientific community by-and-large is on the same page with this? Here's what's nuts. The head of the EPA(appointed by Bush) was caught brazenly editing reports suggesting that global warming was a serious problem. He changed words, cut passages, etc. and then when he was found out, he resigned and took a job with Exxon Mobile.
Or how about this... something like 40 million dollars was spent on funding research projects, by the oil companies, which lo and behold, came up with the conclusion that there was no conclusive data for global warming, just so the bastards could say to us that there was no consensus. If I've got to lean to one side of this debate i'm going to lean to the research that wasn't bought and paid for.
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I do agree with you on minority opinion versus majority opinion to a point though. That point comes down to how
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Originally posted by Dayve:
gullible
Do the French have a word for it.
They don't have one for Entrepreneur.
Apparently...
And as for majority opinion! Democracy, what a crock of shit, since few men are wise rule by the majority is necessarilly the rule of fools!
I'm smart, I should run the world. I'll be a good dictator, promise.
Besides why are we giving democracy to Iraq? Bush should just choose an American friendly government and fuck the Iraqis. It's worked before, like when the powers that be put pinochett in charge because those stupid idiots chose the wrong government in election, nothing went wrong there.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
He had 2 damn good additions to the US Supreme Court ( even w/ the screw up w/ Harriet Myers )
And those would be? All I saw was Bush putting a couple loyal Republicans in what is arguably the most important position in the country. If that's not a major fuckin' mistake, then I don't know what is.
As for Meyers, she was exactly the kind of supreme court justice that we need. A moderate that sees both sides and can compromise to satisfy the people, not her party.
You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.
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Originally posted by Sassalicious:Quote:
For starters, Bush's tax cuts were great for the country, and I hope they stay fixed
Yes, because reducing revenue and increasing expenditure (the great "War on Terrorism") is always a good thing. Last time I checked, debt and an increasing one at that, is a bad thing. I'm not allowed to spend money I don't have, why is he allowed to?
Tax cuts INCREASED revenue to the Federal Treasurey, not decreased. In fact, it's happened every time taxes have been cut. Worked that way w/ JFK, with Reagan and with Bush 43. The Debt isn't a result of the War on Terror, but from excessive social spending, entitlements, and the like. W spends $ like a drunken sailor, and there's no denying that. He's tried to 'play nice ' w/ the Democrats, and it's blown up in his face.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by Dayve:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
the price of gasoline, which has absolutely nothing to do w/ his policy, but it's what everyone has to deal with , regardless. And before anyone whines about the war in Iraq, there's a host of other forces which impact the oil market - increased economies in China, India, Hurricane damage to oil platforms / refineries in the Gulf of Mexio, social unrest in Nigeria, and the whacko Iranian President making new threats every other day
ah, can we talk here....say Auraptor...have I got a deal for you...it's this bridge, see...hell of a bargain....
oh, and just so you'll know....the word gullible is not even in the dictionary....
I see dealing w/ facts is not your concern. Inane one liners is.
Here's a grand idea. Why not try to dispute comment point by point, instead of quips about bridges and petty insults. Perhaps both of us can learn something if you try to have an honest discussion.
It is a dream I have
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Rightious9
I find it near impossible to have a intellectually honest discussion on much if you try to cliam the economy isn't doing very well. But what the heck, lets have some fun. 
The 'rich' EARNED that money, and are being 'allowed' to keep it. It's not GIVING them anything. Your choice of words and phrasing is baffling. Trickle down DOES work, and for anyone to deny that....well, you're welcome to think that.
Oil companies have the smallest profit MARGIN numbers of almost any major corporation. EXXON was at 9% profit in 2005, I believe. Where was the outcry in the Dot Com companies paying their employees outrageous salaries, and they were dealing w/ virtually NOTHING!
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Yeah, we've not gotten OBL , yet. Seen him lately? Funny how all we get from him are 'audio' tapes, when before he was constantly on video. Wonder why THAT is. We suspected he was in Tora Bora, we didn't KNOW for dead certain. There's always been a margin of error in trying to track down folks like that.
OBL declared war on the West and the US way back in '97. We were attacked IN NYC by pissed off muslims in 1993, in Clinton's first months of office. Subsequently in the next 8 yrs, the US was attacked no less than 4 more times, all Islamic terrorist. Bush bears the blame for 9/11, yet Clinton gets a pass for all those ? And it IS correct, no one could have expected the use of airliners as weapons. It's one thing to theorize about such events, quite another to see them happne for the first time.
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You know little, it seems , about either Alito OR Roberts, other than they're conservative, and therefore must be bad. *sigh* Bush is President and gets to pick whom ever he wishes. Clinton did the same w/ Ruth Bader Ginsberg, and she is FAR more Left wing than Bush's choices are to the Right. And the GOP put up littel fuss over her nomination, as the vote was 96-3 ( 1 no vote ) Bush slapped no one in the face, except maybe conservatives when he tried to slip Harriet Miers onto the bench. Send your friends a card and some flowers to show how much you care, George. Don't treat them to a seat on the USSC.
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Even BUSH agrees on Global Warming ? ( Where's the laugh emoticon? ) This from a White House that won't committ Fed $$ for embryonic stem cell research...well, not that any of that really matters. Private research is still raking in the $$, all it wants. So there's no real issue there. To keep this brief... the Earth's climate has never, and will never be 'stable' .
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On being 'informed', there's so much more that can be said. A great deal of what we're being fed by the Gov't and the media is mind numbing B.S. It's the opiat of the masses, in all the colors of the rainbow. My view is that the Gov't should be doing far LESS than it's doing in many areas it has no business , and far MORE in the primary functions of what Gov'ts are suppose to do.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:{raises hand timidly}.... Because you're not allowed to print money in your basement, like the Feds? Good thing I put a chunk'o change into a basket of currencies. Not like I'm betting against the dollar or anything....
I'm not allowed to spend money I don't have, why is he allowed to?
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